Ich, velvet, brook, or other?

[MilesO'Smiles]

Wondering if anyone can help diagnose what disease my fish are displaying. I think it started when I added a Kole tang to my DT. It died within a couple of days then several days later a royal gramma died. Soon after a sleeper banded goby showed some symptoms (first fish I was able to notice symptoms on). It had a dull, kind of dandy look on its body and white spots on its fins. It died within a week of me noticing it had developed something (tried and failed numerous times to move it to QT). Then clowns and mollies started showing similar symptoms and I was able to get them out into QT. Firefish might be starting to show symptoms but it is hard to tell because they are white. Melanarus wrasse and blue-green chromi appear to be unaffected so far.

 

[ga2040]

Ich or velvet or both. You may want to qt them as soon as possible in copper at around 2.25 for 30days and leave the display fallow for 6 weeks.

 

[MilesO'Smiles]

Ich or velvet or both. You may want to qt them as soon as possible in copper at around 2.25 for 30days and leave the display fallow for 6 weeks.

Yes I have the clowns and mollies in a QT and slowly ramped up copper over a few days. Its sitting at 2.11ppm now. Just wanted input on whether it was for sure ich/velvet or if brook or something else was a possibility.

How do you copper treat a melanarus without sand in the QT though? Won't it get freaked out and stressed at night when it cant bury itself?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Yes I have the clowns and mollies in a QT and slowly ramped up copper over a few days. Its sitting at 2.11ppm now. Just wanted input on whether it was for sure ich/velvet or if brook or something else was a possibility.

How do you copper treat a melanarus without sand in the QT though? Won't it get freaked out and stressed at night when it cant bury itself?

Pics dark but looks like ich
Place them and any other fish in with them in a separate treatment tank and treat with coppersafe or copper power at 2.25 ppm for a full 30 with air stone added
Leave display tank without fish for 6-8 weeks to allow parasites to die off without a host fish. Corals and inverts can remain in display tank during the fishless period

 

[vetteguy53081]

Yes I have the clowns and mollies in a QT and slowly ramped up copper over a few days. Its sitting at 2.11ppm now. Just wanted input on whether it was for sure ich/velvet or if brook or something else was a possibility.

How do you copper treat a melanarus without sand in the QT though? Won't it get freaked out and stressed at night when it cant bury itself?

Monitor level with a Hanna brand copper test kit
For wrasse, add a deep bowl with sand

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Wondering if anyone can help diagnose what disease my fish are displaying. I think it started when I added a Kole tang to my DT. It died within a couple of days then several days later a royal gramma died. Soon after a sleeper banded goby showed some symptoms (first fish I was able to notice symptoms on). It had a dull, kind of dandy look on its body and white spots on its fins. It died within a week of me noticing it had developed something (tried and failed numerous times to move it to QT). Then clowns and mollies started showing similar symptoms and I was able to get them out into QT. Firefish might be starting to show symptoms but it is hard to tell because they are white. Melanarus wrasse and blue-green chromi appear to be unaffected so far.

Are you noticing any rapid breathing? That can be pretty subtle, but is a sign of protozoan parasites that copper will handle.

 

[MilesO'Smiles]

Monitor level with a Hanna brand copper test kit
For wrasse, add a deep bowl with sand

The sand won't absorb the copper? And yes I do monitor daily with hanna

 

[MilesO'Smiles]

Are you noticing any rapid breathing? That can be pretty subtle, but is a sign of protozoan parasites that copper will handle.

Not particularly. The sleeper banded goby was breathing quite slowly the day before it died.

 

[vetteguy53081]

The sand won't absorb the copper? And yes I do monitor daily with hanna

Very little impact opposed to effects of rock

 

[MnFish1]

Just to make sure we're all on the same page - ALL of your fish will need treatment - not just the 'sick ones' - and your display tank will need to be fishes of 6-8 weeks (as @vetteguy53081 said already) - but it sounds like you have 2 different tanks.

 

[MilesO'Smiles]

Just to make sure we're all on the same page - ALL of your fish will need treatment - not just the 'sick ones' - and your display tank will need to be fishes of 6-8 weeks (as @vetteguy53081 said already) - but it sounds like you have 2 different tanks.

Yes we are on the same page but thanks for checking and making sure! I have 2 10 gallon tanks (one for treatment and another to hold the treated fish afterwards) along with the 100 gallon display tank which I will leave empty for 8 weeks.

 

[MnFish1]

Yes we are on the same page but thanks for checking and making sure! I have 2 10 gallon tanks (one for treatment and another to hold the treated fish afterwards) along with the 100 gallon display tank which I will leave empty for 8 weeks.

OK is there a reason you dont want to just keep them in the same tank? After the second prazipro dose - you can add carbon.

 

[MilesO'Smiles]

OK is there a reason you dont want to just keep them in the same tank? After the second prazipro dose - you can add carbon.

Paranoia mostly lol. That plus I already have the other 10 gal ready to go.

 

[MnFish1]

Paranoia mostly lol. That plus I already have the other 10 gal ready to go.

I might tend to leave them in the one tank - rather than stress them out again for a couple weeks and then back into a display tank. Of course - its not a huge deal - only wanted to make the point that its not absolutely necessary

 

[MilesO'Smiles]

I might tend to leave them in the one tank - rather than stress them out again for a couple weeks and then back into a display tank. Of course - its not a huge deal - only wanted to make the point that its not absolutely necessary

Yea additional stress thats a good point! Maybe ill rethink.