Meridith...as you can see, it is undoubtedly velvet...let me tell you where things are at and you (please) tell me if there's anything I can do...both fish are laying down or resting on the bottom upright...they are in .4+ cupramine...the dots are mostly gone...the tang scurries about if disturbed...otherwise no one is swimming...HF talks about different treatments for different stages...not sure that they would survive much at this point but I do have ParaGuard (Sea Chem) and Ruby Reef Rally which is acroflavin and formalin...so...what would your and/or HF advise be at this point...?...Thanks, Ken:(