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I just bought 1 of the Reefi Extreme for my 66G setup, its replacing a hybrid T5/LED setup, I'm excited to see the improvements in corals with this new light. The T5/Led setup works but the LED's are a little on the low side so the max PAR is less the desired and the colors I get from the LED aren't perfect.
 
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Just when I made the emotional leap to upgrade from my 2 AI Hydra 26HDs to Radion XR 30 Pros.
I’d been going back and forth between a pair of the Radions or an ATI/Kessil A360X hybrid setup but then found this thread.

I’ve read all twelve pages of posts and my interest is peaked. I must admit most of it waaay above my head. I’m a relative newbie to reefing (2yrs) with a 90 gal tank that right now has a few softies and some LPS. The SPS I had all fell victim to a GFO overdose. At least that’s been the best guess from others here on R2R.
I know what PAR is but PUR and PPFD and all those wavelength graphs are above my pay grade at the moment. These lights, as well as the Radions, are probably overkill right now but I aspire to greater things and don’t see any downside to having more powerful lights than I currently need,

Couple of questions:

My tank is in the living room so aesthetics are important and I don’t want to hang my lights from the ceiling or drill wall mounts. Will the available RMS mounts work on a rimmed tank?
My other question is in regards to the user interface. Do these work similar to the AI Hydras where I download an app and then access them via computer, iPhone or iPad?

Price is not my #1 priority but it seems like I can save a few hundred bucks or so with your ReeFi units by not needing Radion diffusers or Reeflink.

I look forward to hearing from Daniel soon and special thanks to Dana Riddle and everyone in the R2R community who contributed to this informative thread.
You will have to buy the RMS mount or use the one that Daniel sells on his site to mount it but there shouldn't be any reason that it would not work on your tank. As for the interface its just a web page the the light publishes, so after you get the lights you will set them up on wifi and then with a web browser go to the IP address that is assigned to the light (should show on the front light display). A lot easier than getting an app.
 

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I just bought 1 of the Reefi Extreme for my 66G setup, its replacing a hybrid T5/LED setup, I'm excited to see the improvements in corals with this new light. The T5/Led setup works but the LED's are a little on the low side so the max PAR is less the desired and the colors I get from the LED aren't perfect.
One reefi isn’t enough for a 66G tank, nor would one of any of the other led lights on the market, save for maybe a giant Orphek.
 

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One reefi isn’t enough for a 66G tank, nor would one of any of the other led lights on the market, save for maybe a giant Orphek.
I don't know how you are determining this but from what I can see on output it should be good for my setup the tank is only 32" long and these lights should cover it just find. My current setup is 2 led with the 4 T5 bulbs. I guess I'll find out once I install them and test the PAR between my current setup and the new lights.

Also on the Orphek, from what I read they have so very bad service and dependabilty and they are more $$$ than the Reefi, so why would I go with that light over the Reefi?
 

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You will have to buy the RMS mount or use the one that Daniel sells on his site to mount it but there shouldn't be any reason that it would not work on your tank. As for the interface its just a web page the the light publishes, so after you get the lights you will set them up on wifi and then with a web browser go to the IP address that is assigned to the light (should show on the front light display). A lot easier than getting an app.
Thanks for the prompt reply. Just visited ReeFi website. Is it possible that the RMS mount selling for $15 does the same job as the Radion mount that sells for $104? On the site I see cross tank mounts and one for rimless tanks. There is also an RMS adapter to eliminate droop. I do not see one specifically listed for a standard rimmed tank.
 

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Thanks for the prompt reply. Just visited ReeFi website. Is it possible that the RMS mount selling for $15 does the same job as the Radion mount that sells for $104? On the site I see cross tank mounts and one for rimless tanks. There is also an RMS adapter to eliminate droop. I do not see one specifically listed for a standard rimmed tank.
The RMS mount is an adapter to allow you to mount the ReeFi light on the Radion RMS mount, you would still need to buy the RMS mount if you don't already have it. The one that he sells in here: https://www.reefi-lab.com/product/2040-single-arm-tank-mount-for-rimless-tanks/ but you will still need to buy the 2040 aluminum but its pretty cheap and available everywhere. I'm going to use the wall mount setup with mine that he has here: https://www.reefi-lab.com/product/2040-wall-mounts/
 

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I don't know how you are determining this but from what I can see on output it should be good for my setup the tank is only 32" long and these lights should cover it just find. My current setup is 2 led with the 4 T5 bulbs. I guess I'll find out once I install them and test the PAR between my current setup and the new lights.

Also on the Orphek, from what I read they have so very bad service and dependabilty and they are more $$$ than the Reefi, so why would I go with that light over the Reefi?
I have a single large reefi over my 34g, 24in long tank with depth of 17”. I get plenty of PAR with that depth...Not insane PAR, but plenty.

If your tank is only 32” long, then it must be very deep, which will decrease PAR quite a bit unless you have your light very close to the water.

As for Orphek, I never spoke to their CS or reputation, so don’t see why you brought that up.

You implied that your reefi was low on par, for your tank. My reply was that ALL led options on the market are probably low for your tank if you use just one.

Edit: I think that I misread your post. Are you commenting on your current setup and not the reefi?
 

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The RMS mount is an adapter to allow you to mount the ReeFi light on the Radion RMS mount, you would still need to buy the RMS mount if you don't already have it. The one that he sells in here: https://www.reefi-lab.com/product/2040-single-arm-tank-mount-for-rimless-tanks/ but you will still need to buy the 2040 aluminum but its pretty cheap and available everywhere. I'm going to use the wall mount setup with mine that he has here: https://www.reefi-lab.com/product/2040-wall-mounts/
Assuming I bought the proffered rimless mount from ReeFi where would the 2040 aluminum fit into the setup. I'm not at all clear on that. Seems like the issue is getting the mount to fit over the rim on the tank.
I really don't want to mount my lights on the wall.
 

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I have a single large reefi over my 34g, 24in long tank with depth of 17”. I get plenty of PAR with that depth...Not insane PAR, but plenty.

If your tank is only 32” long, then it must be very deep, which will decrease PAR quite a bit unless you have your light very close to the water.

As for Orphek, I never spoke to their CS or reputation, so don’t see why you brought that up.

You implied that your reefi was low on par, for your tank. My reply was that ALL led options on the market are probably low for your tank if you use just one.
My tank is 32" long x 24" wide and 20" tall so no its not deep very deep either. I do not have a reefi light yet I have a T5/led hybrid setup, I tested my PAR when I setup my tank and I'm getting around 300 at the top and low 200 at the bottom with this setup. If I don't see more PAR with the Reefi Extreme then I can always use it along with the T5 hybrid setup and get a low more Par with that but I'm really hoping to not have to do that.

As for my comment on the CS and reputation of the Orphek, I said this because you made it sound like the Orphek is going to be a lot better than the Reefi Extreme and I'm not seeing that, also when I buy something I take the reliability and CS into account before I buy. So you suggesting that I buy another brand that has issue with CS and reliability is something that I think has to be address and considered, that's it nothing against you its all about the product.
 

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Assuming I bought the proffered rimless mount from ReeFi where would the 2040 aluminum fit into the setup. I'm not at all clear on that. Seems like the issue is getting the mount to fit over the rim on the tank.
I really don't want to mount my lights on the wall.
Reefi sells the point or attachment to various tank mounts. It attaches to your reefi light and then attaches to the matching arm that you buy elsewhere.
 

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Assuming I bought the proffered rimless mount from ReeFi where would the 2040 aluminum fit into the setup. I'm not at all clear on that. Seems like the issue is getting the mount to fit over the rim on the tank.
I really don't want to mount my lights on the wall.
The 2040 aluminum is what attaches to the mount that goes over the rim on the tank and then attaches to the light, so in the description of this mount at the bottom he has links to the other items you will need for this mount, one of the 2040 and the other is the inside corner mount that holds the 2 pieces together. Hopefully this make since.
 

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My tank is 32" long x 24" wide and 20" tall so no its not deep very deep either. I do not have a reefi light yet I have a T5/led hybrid setup, I tested my PAR when I setup my tank and I'm getting around 300 at the top and low 200 at the bottom with this setup. If I don't see more PAR with the Reefi Extreme then I can always use it along with the T5 hybrid setup and get a low more Par with that but I'm really hoping to not have to do that.

As for my comment on the CS and reputation of the Orphek, I said this because you made it sound like the Orphek is going to be a lot better than the Reefi Extreme and I'm not seeing that, also when I buy something I take the reliability and CS into account before I buy. So you suggesting that I buy another brand that has issue with CS and reliability is something that I think has to be address and considered, that's it nothing against you its all about the product.
I think that a single reefi is going to be low on your tank if you are going for Acroporas unless you keep the light closer to the water line and keep your corals closer to the center. It’ll be more PAR than I think your current led light is probably providing.

As for Orphek, I have no experience with their CS. Their hardware looks legit...

Reefi has the competition beat, in my opinion, with the 3 year warranty and the owner jumping, within minutes, to answer questions. That and the light being superior to the Radion as far as hardware goes.
 

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Reefi sells the point or attachment to various tank mounts. It attaches to your reefi light and then attaches to the matching arm that you buy elsewhere.

The 2040 aluminum is what attaches to the mount that goes over the rim on the tank and then attaches to the light, so in the description of this mount at the bottom he has links to the other items you will need for this mount, one of the 2040 and the other is the inside corner mount that holds the 2 pieces together. Hopefully this make since.
Sounds like they do not sell a complete mounting system for a tank mount. I'd gladly pay the price to be able to open a box and assemble the mounting fixture.
Hmm, I wonder if the mounting arms from my Hydras would work?
 

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I think that a single reefi is going to be low on your tank if you are going for Acroporas unless you keep the light closer to the water line and keep your corals closer to the center. It’ll be more PAR than I think your current led light is probably providing.

As for Orphek, I have no experience with their CS. Their hardware looks legit...

Reefi has the competition beat, in my opinion, with the 3 year warranty and the owner jumping, within minutes, to answer questions. That and the light being superior to the Radion as far as hardware goes.
I'll find out on the Par with the meter, I would not do this without using one as my hope is to start out close to the current Par levels and then use the acclimation mode to slowly ramp the Par up. I do have Acro's now and they are growing great with the level I have and getting good color I just want to see more color out of them and better quality light.

As for Orphek I agree that their hardware looks great but there is a long thread on here and a LOT of people are getting issues with random led's failing and to fix it requires you replacing the led yourself with a soldering iron. I can do it but I have no desire to buy $1000 for a light that requires me to repair and fix burned out led's myself.

The Reefi is hard to beat and I think a lot better deal and setup that anything Orphek offers, I was originally going to do with one of the large Orphek setups but the issues with quality and support was a huge turnoff and when you really compare the Reefi and the Orphek the Reefi Extreme very close to the same as the Orphek for power and number of leds. Plus the interface and options on the Reefi are better than the Orphek.
 

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Sounds like they do not sell a complete mounting system for a tank mount. I'd gladly pay the price to be able to open a box and assemble the mounting fixture.
Hmm, I wonder if the mounting arms from my Hydras would work?
You can contact Daniel on here or from his site and ask him about this and what he recommends. I agree that it would be nice to be able to buy a complete setup direct from him and everything is ready to go. Maybe that is something that he will add?
 
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Sounds like they do not sell a complete mounting system for a tank mount. I'd gladly pay the price to be able to open a box and assemble the mounting fixture.
Hmm, I wonder if the mounting arms from my Hydras would work?
The hydra mounts will not work, as the ReeFis are heavier lights.
I recommend buying the ReeFi adaptor for the Radion RMS and ordering RMS mounts from one of the Radion dealers. Get the ReeFi adaptor that corrects for the 3.6 degree sag/drop that happens with the RMS mounts. I really liked this option myself.

Here’s the one you want: https://www.reefi-lab.com/2019/09/06/rms-mount-adaptor-with-3-6-degs-correction-option/

You can see a picture here of Suncrestreef’s ReeFi using the RMS mounts with the 3.6 degree correction. They look great!

 
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FWIW - I left mine hanging from some brackets mounted to the wall. PAR is high enough that I can hang the light higher than the tank mount options allow. Higher up means better coverage. I’m considering hanging it a few inches higher for even better coverage.
 

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Sounds like they do not sell a complete mounting system for a tank mount. I'd gladly pay the price to be able to open a box and assemble the mounting fixture.
Hmm, I wonder if the mounting arms from my Hydras would work?
Hi PeterG,

What is the dimensions of your tank? Is it rimmed or rimless? Do you have make and model of your tank? If you prefer, I'm willing to help you order the parts you need and have them ship to you directly. 2040 aluminum profile would still look great but will have sharp 90deg corners. If you like a more curved corners look than RMS is the way to go. Send me PM directly, email, or Facebook msg and I can help you determine which mounting option to get and help you order all the parts you need.

Hydras mounts will not work. They are way too thin and the ReeFi Duo Extremes are much heavier.

Thanks,
Daniel
 
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