ION Director - measuring Ca + Mg

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  1. Matthias Gross

    Matthias Gross GHL Team R2R Supporter Platinum Sponsor

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    We didn't want to announce our next product, the ION Director, before we have ALL facts, especially prices and availability, and all technical details, because announcing too early can lead to unnecessary pressure and dissatisfaction - so we tried to avoid that.

    BUT: So many people who knew that we are working on a solution for measuring Calcium had been asking the last weeks, we felt that it is overdue to announce now at least the most important (and already firm) facts.

    This is already clear about the ION Director:
    • will measure (at least) Calcium and Magnesium
    • no reagents, works with sensors (but still needs calibration fluid)
    • several measurements per day (customizable), no permanent measurement
    • needs a Doser Standalone, ProfiLux 3 or ProfiLux 4 as a "brain" for operation, connected over ProfiLux Aquatic Bus (similar principle as KH Director)
    • needs 2 or 3 pumps (still under development): sample in/out, calibration fluid in + out
    • can also control Ca and Mg (via changing dosing amounts or switching sockets)
    • small sample amount
    • self calibrating
    • usual features as for our other measurements: alarms, graphs, etc.
    • will be shown at Macna 2019
    • sales start November 2019
    No final information about prices yet. No details about the probes resp. their lifetime can be announced at this point.
    Our main goals are to have very accurate readings, long probe lifetime and reasonably priced replacement probes. We are working hard with our probe vendor on that.

    Our tests are extremely promising, this is how it will look like (maybe changes in details):
    IonDirector.jpg

    More details ASAP!
     
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  2. Elder1945

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    yes please.
     
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    Nice!!!
     
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  4. Ditto

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    Nice, all three now!!
     
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  5. shiftline

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    Awesome!
     
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    Very promising, can't wait to see the end product :)
     
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    "At least" calcium and magnesium! Sounds great! Probes with auto calibration! I like this path!
     
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    "We didn't want to announce our next product, the ION Director, before we have ALL facts, especially prices and availability, and all technical details, because announcing too early can lead to unnecessary pressure and dissatisfaction - so we tried to avoid that."


    THE SHADDDEEEEEEEEEE :D
     
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  9. Wrasse-cal

    Wrasse-cal Well-Known Member Build Thread Contributor

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    Curious @Matthias Gross if you can share:

    If measurement is via probes only, without reagent, why no continuous monitoring (which is what I understood you to mean by permanent measurement)?
     
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  10. Gaël

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    Because probes need to be calibrated before each measurement. It's what i understand. We will to have calibration fluid bottle.
     
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  11. mdbannister

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    Cool!! I love innovation!!
     
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    How many dosing heads are required for the Kh and ION director? Trying to figure out a parts lists to measure Kh,Mg and Ca.
     
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    KH Director Requires...
    1 to pull from tank/sump
    1 to add reagent
    1 to remove water from KHD to waste container
    1 (optional) to dose KH.

    This one looks like (from above)
    "needs 2 or 3 pumps (still under development): sample in/out, calibration fluid in + out"
     
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    So I’m going to need x2 Stand-alone dosers, Kh director, ION director and the Profilux controller to measure those 3 elements.
     
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    Wording above is interesting, for KHD you don't need SA dosers, you can have slave + ProfiLux, or a standalone doser (if you use this combo, you lose the ability to historically track your measurements).

    I'd think if you had a ProfiLux, you wouldn't need a SA doser, but that is an assumption and definitely conflicts with what the OP said.
     
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  16. ReefyB

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    Yeah this was my point in the other thread. Sounds like it’s going to be a lot more devices and a whole lot more $$$ to do basically the same thing as their ‘competitor’, if you want to call it that.
     
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    I think we may be overlooking a statement: :)
    • will measure (at least) Calcium and Magnesium
    At least, which means in my opinion it is going to be more then Calcium and Magnesium the question is what other test are coming ;)
     
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    Looking forward to this!
     
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    Maybe potassium and strontium (hopefully)
     
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    So many cool options coming to the market!
     
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