No. it doesnt - he had a specific tank with specific inhabitants. He has had success with those - which is great - I've had my current tank up for - prob - 10 years. - who cares - multiple things - based on things outside my control - have caused losses (I've posted them)
I’ve been here for 10 or so years and you’d think with no qt ive messed and been hit with some horrendous diseases but the reality is ive only faces on disease and it was a minor ich out break so I’m always researching more diseases and what signs of them are.Yeah I was trying to get a rough gauge of how many fish die from not qt from everyone and not just people who started a thread saying they got sick fish or fishes dead.
And above post makes a good point of more experienced people will have better chance of knowing what to do or what medication to dose if got a sick fish so less likely to start a thread asking how or what dieseses there fish actually have as I know for 6 years now im constantly researching. In average day I'm looking/ researching 2- 4 hours about anything saltwater related whether it be threads on here or articles or videos etc
Not saying that his way is the only way to get there but I don't think I can argue that getting that end result is the goal most should strive for. In fact, my latest build is dry rock (been dry since tearing down my 65 about 5 years ago) so I'm expecting a far different experience this time then my previous tanks which were all started with live rock.No. it doesnt - he had a specific tank with specific inhabitants. He has had success with those - which is great - I've had my current tank up for - prob - 10 years. - who cares - multiple things - based on things outside my control - have caused losses (I've posted them)
Its easy now - In fact I will pay for it Aquabiomics - to prove that @PaulB has pathogens in his tank - providing immunity. My guess is no pathogens will be found - thus - the concept of feeding 'parasites' is a falsehood. How that for starting an issue
I don’t think anyone has a completely disease free tank, it could be hiding in the sand and just waiting for the perfect fish and time to strike. It’s been shown in several cases a fallow tank has still had an outbreak of something at some point and it usually starts when a sensitive fish or two have been put into the tank.Not saying that his way is the only way to get there but I don't think I can argue that getting that end result is the goal most should strive for. In fact, my latest build is dry rock (been dry since tearing down my 65 about 5 years ago) so I'm expecting a far different experience this time then my previous tanks which were all started with live rock.
Agreed - my guess - is from a scientific basis - he has no parasite DNA in his tankNot saying that his way is the only way to get there but I don't think I can argue that getting that end result is the goal most should strive for. In fact, my latest build is dry rock (been dry since tearing down my 65 about 5 years ago) so I'm expecting a far different experience this time then my previous tanks which were all started with live rock.
I could have. I could have also lost them all if one of them did have something, just like what happened when I first started in the hobby and just plopped them into DT.And this says a lot - because what your results seem to suggest is that you could potentially have dropped them in the tank?
I would think stock fish how you can, and not in large numbers at a time. Are you going to start a fish tank?! Like some people 1: can't afford qt setup. 2: they don't have space. 3: other reasons. A lot of people who do it that way don't have huge problems. Not saying at all stuff could happen, or not. Study up a bit, get to know your distributor, get to know their methods, study their fish etc.. Alternatively qt properly with healthy fish if you can. It is a choice.Dr Z
well said that makes sense. nice perspective.
what would you advise to the owner of a recently bottle bac cycled tank, including nitrite compliance we waited twelve straight weeks and the nitrite is finally api zero: how do they proceed to stock with fish, common pet store fish?
The problem with skill is that if all you see is that you think that it is common. Look at musicians so many think that it is easy be they see the plethora of musicians and think well so many are successfull then it must be easy. Until of course they try for themselves.get a working reef without 3 year's wait.
Every single person that has had a tank started out a newb. Let me re-iterate that EVERY SINGLE ONE. Why did they succeed? What made them so special? Things that all newbs should be desperately trying to find the answer to.It doesnt matter if someone here really doesn't have to quarantine, do we really expect newbs to be as good as someone who's already versed in no quarantine approaches?
Maybe your critics have done exactly that, but you are unable because of your experience (or lack thereof) to grasp. There are some seriously weird things in this hobby. Things that seem crazy and counter-intuitive. And I am VERY serious on this point. If you listen to the long timers they say things that are out there. They may even be specifically wrong about the reasons but the answers they provide though technically wrong may be functionally right.I've always asked my critics to state what they think is best for new tankers, match the advice to the average skill level
That is why you have to take advice with a grain of salt. It is much better for you to try and fail on your own than to take advice that you won't or can't qualify. Fail faster.Then, the ratio will be 90% NO quarantine its bad for fish, 10% qt. the skews flop based on a thread title and where its positioned,
You are wasting your time. Stop "helping" people and go get a tank and set it up and keep fish, or coral or whatever. There is a saying "You can't give what you don't have".Anytime I wrote anything about fish disease it wasn't because I own fish, it was because I can read patterns and the strongest retention comes from Jay's advice.
If they don't wait then they fail.it does not come from old tank owners telling newbs to skip fish preps, or from telling them to wait longer for tank maturity. they're not going to wait.
Why no one likes the advice that I provide. I guess I am just not popular enough, because it seems that popularity is the sole qualification for your understanding. Better block me again, because in your world I have nothing to say.I wasn't expecting you to link any form of thread where you advise the public and hang around to inspect outcomes,
This is the part that makes me take issue with so much that you have to say. I am on block so I doubt you will respond, but what is it that I did in 2019? I have only been on this board as my tag states Jun 2, 2020. Perhaps you know me IRL?I was expecting only for you to continue cycle battles that didn't work out well for you in 2019.
At least that I have that .. fish tank owner. I went through point by point. I stated what I disagreed with. Do I need to hire experts to assure that I am "right" according to you?you provide literally no basis for your critique. you're a fish tank owner, thats it.
You are on a fish board. You are answering questions. You don't own your own aquarium.I dont watch you test any theories or patterns live time with anyone, I specifically don't see you doing accountability work on any subject.
That does indeed make you popular.cyclers aren't messaging you fifteen times a day for direction,
Actually you have done that to Ying Yang, you were less than kind to him.you pop solely into other peoples threads to provide critique.
Maybe I don't post my discoveries here because of your response. Maybe I am working at a level that others have not yet reached. It seems funny to me that most of the things I have questions about I use PM to accomplish.am not seeing in your recent post history any discoveries made, any trends reflected on, and especially any repeat cycle assistance for new hires.