It’s getting worse!!

[Trillaman954]

Do not place mandarin in copper. Wavemakers will have a very low if any content to release in display. Rinse forst.

So should I place mandarin back in DT tank during fallow period?

 

[MindlessToxin]

I believe it will have to go in a separate qt... Mandarin's don't usually get ich, because they have a thicker slime coat, but they are still susceptible and it will be a host for the ich to attach too.

 

[vetteguy53081]

So should I place mandarin back in DT tank during fallow period?

Yes or a tank without copper

 

[Trillaman954]

Can I set up a 5 gallon bucket as qt just for the mandarin? I don’t need him being a host and continuining the process…what medication do I use for the mandarin?

 

[MindlessToxin]

Can I set up a 5 gallon bucket as qt just for the mandarin? I don’t need him being a host and continuining the process…what medication do I use for the mandarin?

Have you heard of Tank Transfer Method? Is the Mandarin eating frozen food? Mandarins are difficult to qt(main reason I don't have one).

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Do you have instructions on how?

You’ll need pipettes or other ways to accurately dilute your water sample. Since this test only reads to 0.8, and Coppersafe needs to be tested at 2.5, you’ll need to dilute by five times with distilled water, test that, then multiple the results by five to get the actual reading.

 

[Trillaman954]

You’ll need pipettes or other ways to accurately dilute your water sample. Since this test only reads to 0.8, and Coppersafe needs to be tested at 2.5, you’ll need to dilute by five times with distilled water, test that, then multiple the results by five to get the actual reading.

I went and bought this instead. Better be safe than sorry. I’m just waiting to figure out what’s the best approach for the mandarin. Should I set him up in a 5 gallon bucket and dose something else?

 

[Trillaman954]

Have you heard of Tank Transfer Method? Is the Mandarin eating frozen food? Mandarins are difficult to qt(main reason I don't have one).

It’s frozen. I don’t know ttm. My lfs has these.

 

[Trillaman954]

Have you heard of Tank Transfer Method? Is the Mandarin eating frozen food? Mandarins are difficult to qt(main reason I don't have one).

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Tank transfer works for mandarins, but the big issue is that you need to have a clean, ich free tank to move them into after the transfers are done.

 

[Trillaman954]

Tank transfer works for mandarins, but the big issue is that you need to have a clean, ich free tank to move them into after the transfers are done.

Can I treat with one of these meds in pic then put in tank after fallow period?

 

[MindlessToxin]

Can I treat with one of these meds in pic then put in tank after fallow period?

There's only a few "sure ways" to completely eradicate ich: Copper medication, Chloriquine Phosphate, TTM, and hyposalinity. Those bottled medications usually don't work with Saltwater fish. You can learn about all these methods by using the search option in the top right corner

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Can I treat with one of these meds in pic then put in tank after fallow period?

I wouldn't use any of those treatments for ich - some are just "snake oil" and others just aren't strong enough to stop an active infection. Remember, there is NO oversight for aquarium medications - companies can sell anything as a "cure". The driving force behind that is that people get stuck not being able to run a proper treatment due to invertebrates in the tank, so these "reef safe" medications have a ready market, despite them not working well.

 

[Trillaman954]

I wouldn't use any of those treatments for ich - some are just "snake oil" and others just aren't strong enough to stop an active infection. Remember, there is NO oversight for aquarium medications - companies can sell anything as a "cure". The driving force behind that is that people get stuck not being able to run a proper treatment due to invertebrates in the tank, so these "reef safe" medications have a ready market, despite them not working well.

How about this. This is only for the mandarin. I’ll put him in a 5 gallon bucket with livestock since he can’t be exposed to coppper. @Jay Hemdal @MindlessToxin

 

[MindlessToxin]

How about this. This is only for the mandarin. I’ll put him in a 5 gallon bucket with livestock since he can’t be exposed to coppper. @Jay Hemdal @MindlessToxin

I searched on here and I see Jay has said that it's not effective in saltwater. TTM may be your best option for a Mandarin. Here's some good info on TTM. https://humble.fish/community/threads/tank-transfer-method-all-versions.6800/

 

[TeeJay87]

TTM won’t take as long as the copper treated tanks so you have some time to get mandarin comfortable in a separate QT bucket/container and make sure mandarin is eating something, which can be difficult as they largely survive on pods in the tank.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

How about this. This is only for the mandarin. I’ll put him in a 5 gallon bucket with livestock since he can’t be exposed to coppper. @Jay Hemdal @MindlessToxin

I'm not a fan of this product for marine ich, but it does work well against FW ich.

Jay

 

[Trillaman954]

I'm not a fan of this product for marine ich, but it does work well against FW ich.

Jay

ive been reading to raise temps to 82 while going fallow. will this not kill corals? im planning on going fallow for 72 days while fish are in QT with copper. im doing ttm method for mandarin. but will my corals be ok in 82 degree temps while in fallow for those 72 days? also, how gradually should i add the copper?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

ive been reading to raise temps to 82 while going fallow. will this not kill corals? im planning on going fallow for 72 days while fish are in QT with copper. im doing ttm method for mandarin. but will my corals be ok in 82 degree temps while in fallow for those 72 days? also, how gradually should i add the copper?

Raising the temperature will speed up the fallow period, but you’ll need to weigh the risk to the corals. I used to raise temps up to 90 to burn the ich out fast, but this was in empty tanks, no animals.
Many people find 81 degrees is ok for their corals. That reduces the fallow period to as short as 45 to 60 days.

 

[Trillaman954]

Idk if I should post here but my ammonia is reading 1.2 in Red Sea ammonia. I just did water change and it didn’t affect it (5 gallons in 23 gallon qt) the copper is finally at therapeutic levels via hannah so I don’t know what to do. More wc?