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OK, Got one for you. Collected this in the reef grass flats locally. It's juvenile and about 1.5 inches. Fast as all get out and not a fan of photos being taken. Supposed I should have had him sign a model release. Picks constantly at the rocks and is a ravenous feeder. Haven't a clue myself. Western Pacific.
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Halichoeres margaritaceusOK, Got one for you. Collected this in the reef grass flats locally. It's juvenile and about 1.5 inches. Fast as all get out and not a fan of photos being taken. Supposed I should have had him sign a model release. Picks constantly at the rocks and is a ravenous feeder. Haven't a clue myself. Western Pacific.
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Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Thank you!
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Two here - but I’m mostly curious why my larger one isn’t getting its male coloring yet
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The small one is C. rubeus or joanallenae, can't tell without seeing the ventral fins, they are red in rubeus and black with joanallenae.
Two here - but I’m mostly curious why my larger one isn’t getting its male coloring yet
The other is H. melanurus. It is in it's transition, so it will develop it's male coloration.
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Most likely.Juvenile H. Melanarus?
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Probably. Better pictures?Juvenile H. Melanarus?
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Either a juvenile H. melanurus or chrysotaenia.Maybe this.
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Melanurus or Vrolikii.
According to fish-base H. melanurus is the same as H. chrysotaenia
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Fishbase is wrong. The ranges for melanurus and chrysotaenia don't overlap. The type specimen for chrysotaenia is more senior than vroliki.
They said that the current Scientific name for Vrolik wrasse is H. vroliki (Indian Ocean)which does not overlap in range with H. melanurus
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Yes, but chrysotaenia is the older name, so therefore valid. Allen and Erdmann in their review of Indian Ocean species and Kuiter in his wrasse books consider chrysotaenia valid and vroliki a junior synonym.
I have emailed FishBase in the past about it and they responded back that they will get to changing it.
In short, H. vroliki is a synonym for H. chrysotaenia, and H. melanurus is a different (perhaps sister) species from a different region. Correct?
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Yes, with chrysotaenia being the valid name since it is older.
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