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To represent that graphically
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Or, put two of them higher?
 

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Or, put two of them higher?
On the pictured example no.

Draw that tank in pencil and put two of them low , and the lines of light in the tank.
The upside down V will intersect , and accomplish a similar task.
 

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Wouldn't two higher give more light bouncing around just as it does with one?
 

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Wouldn't two higher give more light bouncing around just as it does with one?
That becomes a question of dimensions.

If the higher light picture had the light lower , and you added the second light the spread would be similar.

It's likely the two lights would only need half as high as the first, depending on how far apart they are.
 

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Oh that makes sense. There is an optimal ppint in each set up and it varies with dimension spread etc.

How do we find this point in a real world application?
 

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Oh that makes sense. There is an optimal ppint in each set up and it varies with dimension spread etc.

How do we find this point in a real world application?
Honestly, begin by drawing these concepts on paper.
Also look at the specs on manufacturers sites.

You can also take your light and put it close to the floor and slowly raise it up and actually see what happens.

Then, when you get ready for a build, take your best guess.

Like this , two kessil a 360 on a 48 in wide tank ? Or four Kessil 160?


Me , I'd do six, but I'm a sicko.


I have theee 16in bb on a 48w tank 8in from the water at 30%.
 

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Set it on the floor. ..what a great idea. The great ideas are always so simple...

I'm off to take down my lights lol.

This has been the most helpful thread i have read on this confusing subject

Thanks to all who shared!
 

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Set it on the floor. ..what a great idea. The great ideas are always so simple...

I'm off to take down my lights lol.

This has been the most helpful thread i have read on this confusing subject

Thanks to all who shared!
I'm a simpleton. What can I say.
I also shine gigantic lights at the wall in many many houses and stages for a living.

I used a max razor in this one.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lighting-upgrade-with-a-lux-meter-saltyfilmfolks.248417/
 

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To represent that graphically
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DD7FE8B8-DB35-48BA-8901-AEB414077B81.jpeg


yeah thats pretty much my take exactly. the only complaint I can come up with for higher fixture, is bleed over, in fact I absolutely hate it myself, but I'm still a "hood" guy just for the reason. I really like the discussion and input here,guys
 

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yeah thats pretty much my take exactly. the only complaint I can come up with for higher fixture, is bleed over, in fact I absolutely hate it myself, but I'm still a "hood" guy just for the reason. I really like the discussion and input here,guys
Yup. That's also why I opted for the 3 bb on the canopoy. Best coverage possible , and I can still see the TV.
 

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yeah thats pretty much my take exactly. the only complaint I can come up with for higher fixture, is bleed over, in fact I absolutely hate it myself, but I'm still a "hood" guy just for the reason. I really like the discussion and input here,guys

Yeah at some point your gonna lose some radiation escaping over the top of the tank. At which point i think that’s about as high as you would want to go .
@saltyfilmfolks has a great point about setting them on the floor and raising them up until they hit the spread you want. That’s a great way to measure your hanging height without over doing it. Simple yet elegant.
 

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To represent that graphically
B0F12D00-CB5D-4EB7-9E72-89A96BBB3A81.jpeg
DD7FE8B8-DB35-48BA-8901-AEB414077B81.jpeg

I've done a lot of those....beggars can't be choosers – those diagrams take time to make. Level of complexity is reflected in the cost! :D

Here's maybe the best one I've made that shows proportional reflections....it's a modelled Kessil:

One showing "too high" resulting in spill and loss of internal reflections:
48x20_2KessilHigh.jpg


And one showing a more ideal mouting height with no spill (this one shows above- and side-veiws):
48x24_1.png
 

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I've done a lot of those....beggars can't be choosers – those diagrams take time to make. Level of complexity is reflected in the cost! :D

Here's maybe the best one I've made that shows proportional reflections....it's a modelled Kessil:

One showing "too high" resulting in spill and loss of internal reflections:
48x20_2KessilHigh.jpg


And one showing a more ideal mouting height with no spill (this one shows above- and side-veiws):
48x24_1.png

Hey very cool.
 

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