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Hey everyone. I am writing to share my experience with MarinePure ("MP"). I realize that many of you will have had a different experience and I certainly respect that. First some background.

A month or so ago, I had a rocking frag tank, full PE all day and decent color. I have noticed that the tanks with the most color also have the most biological filtration. Thus, I decided to order a bunch of Pukani rock from BRS. Right before I did however, a friend pointed me in the direction of MP. After reading a lot of reviews, and fully acknowledging the Aluminum issue, I decided to order a bunch of it.

I received the MP but was very busy so it sat dry for a few weeks in my fish closet. Finally I had time to introduce it into my tank, but I didn't have time to do the usual water change and carbon change along with it. This turned out to be a good thing in that it eliminated variables.

Here is where this is partially my fault. I barely rinsed the MP before putting it into my tank. I had no idea that the word "Ceramic" refers more to a process than a material (don't believe me, look it up). I figured how bad could a little bit of clay dust be, considering I rarely rinsed dry rock before introduction. I placed the MP in a chamber of my sump where all flow had to go through it.

Within 2 hours of introduction of MP my SPS had all retracted polyps. The water was not cloudy. I did not think much of this and figured in a few days things would be back to normal. Lets just say a few days later nothing had PE or color. I decided at this point to do a large water change and remove the MP. I was positive it was the MP causing the issue because I had not changed anything in the tank other than adding the MP (remember the bit above about eliminating variables). I performed about a 30% water change and figured things would get better.

A couple of days later I began to see the first STN. Terrified, I performed another 50% water change and Changed the carbon. This had no effect. A few days after this I put PolyFIlter into the tank hoping it would eliminate any aluminum the MP had introduced. Again no effect.

So here we are 2 weeks later and MP has given me the privilege of watching all of my SPS slowly STN. I lose a few colonies each day. What is really strange is that I have confirmed that the tank water is fine. I did this by introducing a frag of the same type of coral I had when the MP was introduced, after the MP was introduced. The frag that was there when the MP was introduced died today while the frag introduced after the water changes etc has full PE and looks good. I also tried saving a few of my colonies by placing them in another tank that has never seen MP. They all died. It is like whatever MP released doomed the SPS immediately and nothing can be done to save them.

So in closing I want to reiterate again that I did not follow MP direction as well as I should have and RINSE thoroughly. That said, I wouldn't want something in my tank that if not rinsed properly is a ticking time bomb. Additionally, I am a biologist and am well versed in the scientific method. I would not call out a product like this if I was not nearly 100% sure. I actually have gone back and forth on whether to write this review, but I decided to proceed in hopes I save someones tank. I know many people have used this product with success, My experience was quite different.
 

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I am interested in seeing what a triton test shows. I read a post on this site, can't remember who wrote it but they were doing a triton test before and after using the mp for a bit.
 

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I was asking the OP if he had set out a test of his water to see if it was indeed an a Aluminum issue. I never assign blame to anything until I confirm with testing.
Now that we in the hobby have access to ICP testing we really need to buckle down and start confirming these issues. There are many things that we just guess about in the hobby. We now have the ability to actually determine the facts. As an example what level of Aluminum is normal and what level is toxic to corals.
We need to know these kind of things. The days of just guessing about water parameters are over.
 

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I read on here,the aluminum has more of an effect on lps/softies corals. most sps tanks the aluminum had little effect. But this was from reading different threads on here about MP.
 

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That is terrible! It sounds like the tiny particles from the MP media either irritated your corals or introduced a toxic level of some sort of heavy metal. I recently purchased a sintered glass media that should be totally inert. It's call Siporax and is used widely overseas.
 

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Wow, I have one block in my system with no issues and actually have been considering ordering a few more but this is terrifying. Thank you for the review and I'm sorry this happened. I'm following in hopes to learn more.
 

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I think with proper cleaning and maybe even cycling a tank with them would be best. I have been using one a long time, and just put 3 blocks in my new build. They are cycling with the rock as we speak in the sump.
 

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I didn't rinse mine all that well a quick rinse under the sink and a dip in old tank water. I had no issues with anything. I've read elsewhere of people having issues with softies closing up, but this is the first for sps.
 

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I too made a mistake of not rinsing the blocks well before putting them in the sump. Within a month I lost a few sps frags, shrimps. Also the toadstool closed up all the time. But now the toadstool has fully recovered and the leathers all look fine. So I would think that the MP blocks are OK as long as you rinsed them well before use.
 
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Figured I would tie this thread up. Its been about a month since the Marine Pure disaster. I lost about 50% of my SPS. After taking the MP out of my tank, it took about 3 weeks to get polyp extension again. I am happy to say that colors are starting to return and it looks like there will be no more loses. Im also very happy that it looks like I will not need to reset the tank and start over. Whatever it was that the MP put in the water has long since gone.
 

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