Metasorb vs Cuprisorb

[BigJohnny]

Is there a difference? Metasorb is a lot more expensive. Trying to remove chromium and vanadium.

thanks

 

[Anirban]

Metasorb removes an array of different heavy metal (Aluminum, Cadmium, Cerium, Cobalt, Copper, Dysprosium, Erbium, Europium, Gadolinium, Gold, Holmium, Iron, Lanthanum, Lead, Lutetium, Manganese, Mercury, Neodymium, Nickel, Samarium, Scandium, Selenium, Silver, Terbium, Ytterbium, Yttrium, Zinc) while cuprisorb is mainly designed to remove copper but it can remove nickel, zinc, cobalt, cadmium, manganese too.

 

[BigJohnny]

Metasorb removes an array of different heavy metal (Aluminum, Cadmium, Cerium, Cobalt, Copper, Dysprosium, Erbium, Europium, Gadolinium, Gold, Holmium, Iron, Lanthanum, Lead, Lutetium, Manganese, Mercury, Neodymium, Nickel, Samarium, Scandium, Selenium, Silver, Terbium, Ytterbium, Yttrium, Zinc) while cuprisorb is mainly designed to remove copper but it can remove nickel, zinc, cobalt, cadmium, manganese too.

Thanks, do either remove chromium?

 

[Gareth elliott]

I like polyfilter tbh inexpensive and know rather quickly if it is working. Chromium has an oxidation state similar to iron. Not a chemist but i would assume anything that removes iron would remove chromium.

 

[BigJohnny]

I like polyfilter tbh inexpensive and know rather quickly if it is working. Chromium has an oxidation state similar to iron. Not a chemist but i would assume anything that removes iron would remove chromium.

Cool thanks. I have some polyfilter but I was under the impression it didnt work as well as the others.

 

[Gareth elliott]

Cool thanks. I have some polyfilter but I was under the impression it didnt work as well as the others.

I have not used the others to compare so i honestly cant say which is more effective. I had used polyfilter when a neodymium magnet casing failed in my tank and started ti corrode. It removed enough that no heavy metals appear out of norm on any icp tests i have sent in since.

 

[Anirban]

Thanks, do either remove chromium?

I really can not say as those are list from manufactures website..

 

[BigJohnny]

I have not used the others to compare so i honestly cant say which is more effective. I had used polyfilter when a neodymium magnet casing failed in my tank and started ti corrode. It removed enough that no heavy metals appear out of norm on any icp tests i have sent in since.

How much do you use and how often?

 

[Gareth elliott]

How much do you use and how often?

It is not something i run regularly i keep a pad on hand if needed.

I went through 2 packages removing the metals.

* Caveat I did also at times run carbon probably also contributed to removal from the the water.

 

[Sabellafella]

I have not used the others to compare so i honestly cant say which is more effective. I had used polyfilter when a neodymium magnet casing failed in my tank and started ti corrode. It removed enough that no heavy metals appear out of norm on any icp tests i have sent in since.

I've had a magnet closet light with 2 batterys drop into my tank for who knows how long - about 2 years ago. On top of that had some neodymium magnets corrode. Although I do use poly pads periodically, metasorb according to my icp worked perfect to its standard. Did not see a color change, but all metals I had were depleted by my next icp result (just 5 days later). Its literally a teaspoon of white polymers in a small pouch for upwards 40 bucks. But it does effectively work.

If you have metal issues, I would use the metasorb, if your continuing to have issues without a known source, I would use a poly pad every now and then.

 

[BigJohnny]

It is not something i run regularly i keep a pad on hand if needed.

I went through 2 packages removing the metals.

* Caveat I did also at times run carbon probably also contributed to removal from the the water.

Thanks. I dont think carbon removes metals does it?

 

[BigJohnny]

I've had a magnet closet light with 2 batterys drop into my tank for who knows how long - about 2 years ago. On top of that had some neodymium magnets corrode. Although I do use poly pads periodically, metasorb according to my icp worked perfect to its standard. Did not see a color change, but all metals I had were depleted by my next icp result (just 5 days later). Its literally a teaspoon of white polymers in a small pouch for upwards 40 bucks. But it does effectively work.

If you have metal issues, I would use the metasorb, if your continuing to have issues without a known source, I would use a poly pad every now and then.

Thanks bud, sounds like a good plan.

 

[Gareth elliott]

Thanks. I dont think carbon removes metals does it?

It is not particularly effective at it but at least some is removed. Really depends on species. Will not remove much measurable Cr IV but if Cr III is bound to organics it will be removed with the organics.

 

[Makers Marc]

Metasorb removes an array of different heavy metal (Aluminum, Cadmium, Cerium, Cobalt, Copper, Dysprosium, Erbium, Europium, Gadolinium, Gold, Holmium, Iron, Lanthanum, Lead, Lutetium, Manganese, Mercury, Neodymium, Nickel, Samarium, Scandium, Selenium, Silver, Terbium, Ytterbium, Yttrium, Zinc) while cuprisorb is mainly designed to remove copper but it can remove nickel, zinc, cobalt, cadmium, manganese too.

Anirban,

Which works better for tin? Im using 300mg of cuprisorb to reduce 16mcg/l of tin in my 180g.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I've never seen any detailed information on what these polymers bind. and to what extent. It's a terribly complicated situation because most trace metals come in many forms that will bind to different extents, and the forms may vary tank to tank.

 

[Anirban]

Anirban,

Which works better for tin? Im using 300mg of cuprisorb to reduce 16mcg/l of tin in my 180g.

I have never used them personally but if we go by the very little details provided on the website then metasorb should work better than cuprisorb.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I have never used them personally but if we go by the very little details provided on the website then metasorb should work better than cuprisorb.

I'm not sure what numbers you are comparing, but the data to make an actual comparison of what each will accomplish in a reef tank is almost certainly not available.

 

[Anirban]

I'm not sure what numbers you are comparing, but the data to make an actual comparison of what each will accomplish in a reef tank is almost certainly not available.

Hi Randy,

I am not comparing any data or numbers as you said its not available. I am just quoting the product details from manufactures website. I mentioned that in post 2 and 7.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Hi Randy,

I am not comparing any data or numbers as you said its not available. I am just quoting the product details from manufactures website. I mentioned that in post 2 and 7.

OK, thanks. :)