AbsolutelyOk kids, how bout we settle down a bit.
As the saying goes, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
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AbsolutelyOk kids, how bout we settle down a bit.
As the saying goes, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
Richard, calm down mate, we are on the same side, one scientist to another, but name calling does not do this thread any good.
I understand your concerns about all the gobbledygook and pseudo-science that comes before in this hobby! That's why we try different things.
Good gosh, I'm not here to kill my animals, they are doing very well.
Know that I've taken everything you said to heart and now you have a great day
Hey reef wiserSquamosa you are still using DSR if I am correct right?
This is such and old school technique I remember people doing this 30 years ago.
I've seen this around a lot lately, and while it sounds interesting, I still question the validity of creating "nano bubbles" via this method. If you search online, nano bubbles have been created in the past by forcing air through ceramic nozzles. I'm not saying it's not possible that pumping air through a wood stone and then using a pump to further chop them up will create nano bubbles, but I would be interested to see this tested scientifically before we start throwing around technical terminology that may not fit.
I'm not saying it's not possible that pumping air through a wood stone and then using a pump to further chop them up will create nano bubbles, but I would be interested to see this tested scientifically before we start throwing around technical terminology that may not fit.
My point though is how do you know you got your bubbles close to nano? Nano bubbles are a metric defined by humans and thus can't be proven present without measuring them. I haven't tried to produce nano bubbles in my tank although I've used air stones to create bubbles of undefined size in skimmers and have seen the well documented correlation between O2, ORP and increased health that comes along with it. I just don't see any new correlation from this...I know, that's why I said that we mainly create micro-bubbles, the Japanese ceramic nozzles cost a fortune and require high pressure (beyond my scope, I'm afraid). I can get the bubbles almost to nano...almost
Have you tried this method before?
Good points raised, one I never thought of, I will measure the pH both before and after for one week. BTW. it was 8.1 before the bubbles came onOne point with regards to growth rates...
It would be quite valuable (IMO) for folks posting growth rate info to have a measure of the day and night pH before and after starting bubbling.
The reason is that one main hypothesized reasons for growth rate differences is the change in pH, and the change in pH will (should) be in different dirfections for different tanks, so the effect on growth rate might actually go in different directions as well.
Tanks with a deficit of CO2 with respect to the air being used will show a drop in pH, and those with an excess of CO2 will show a rise in pH. SOem tanks may show different effects depending on the time in the light cycle, and the levels of CO2 in the home air.
FWIW, my reef tank that I had for 20 years always ran at a deficit of CO2 with respect to my home air, and when I increased aeration the pH dropped, and reduced the aeration (by stopping my skimmer, for example) the pH rose (because I use limewater which induces a pH deficit, but photosynthesis can also induce a deficit).
We've tried to create a fast spinning vortex that shears the air into finer particle size and get a fine mist/fog forming (as can be seen in the posted video) in the tank, that takes up to 10 minutes to clear.My point though is how do you know you got your bubbles close to nano? Nano bubbles are a metric defined by humans and thus can't be proven present without measuring them. I haven't tried to produce nano bubbles in my tank although I've used air stones to create bubbles of undefined size in skimmers and have seen the well documented correlation between O2, ORP and increased health that comes along with it. I just don't see any new correlation from this...
Thanks for your inputThe smaller the bubbles the more surface area. More surface area will allow export of organic waste/ impurities. They can be floated out of the water column. Or it can provide more contact for transferring oxygen or other gases into the water.