Monti tissue recession

[jdpeters]

I can’t quite get a picture but I have a grafted sunfire monti that appears to have a little recession. None of my other months do.
I can’t see any signs of monti eating nudis, no pest I can spot.
Secondly the coral has full polyp extension and growth all around opposite to the portion that appears to have died back.

What can I interpret from this and should I cut it up and or dip it?

 

[painter1982]

Hard to tell without a picture.

 

[jdpeters]

Hard to tell without a picture.

Next time I get up I will snap a picture

 

[jdpeters]

You can see on the right side it’s died back considerably. Still growing which is odd. I keep pulling the flash light out at night but never catch anything on it

 

[Kingsley_Reef]

Usually a pretty good indication of M.E.N.

Remove it and look at the underside of the monti

 

[painter1982]

Usually a pretty good indication of M.E.N.

Remove it and look at the underside of the monti

Any cure for them besides dipping? Six line wrasse or a coral banded shrimp eat them? Can you starve them out of a tank and add monti’s down the road. Reason I ask is I suspect them in my tank but can’t remove or don’t see anything either.

 

[Kingsley_Reef]

Any cure for them besides dipping? Six line wrasse or a coral banded shrimp eat them? Can you starve them out of a tank and add monti’s down the road. Reason I ask is I suspect them in my tank but can’t remove or don’t see anything either.

I have only dealt with this in QT IME they seem to survive dipping it just stuns them temporarily even Bayer the only way I beat them was daily checks,manual removal with a small pipette took about 3 months you really gotta find the eggs but it’s nearly impossible without a microscope I’m sure starvation would take longer 6 line would most likely eat them

 

[jdpeters]

Is this dip effective? I’m about to pull the frag out.

 

[jdpeters]

Ok I found at least one when I popped the frag off! I’ve checked it 100 times in the dark never caught it.

I have the frag isolated currently. I want to cut the death off and what else can I do? I need to get it back into the tank

 

[Kingsley_Reef]

Definitely dip it but the eggs will not be effected by dip if you have a magnetic frag rack use that to keep the frag accessible check it every other day manual removal is key

 

[Sawacoral]

I would chuck it, it doesn't look like the frag is very big. MEN are very hardy, dipping its likely to be unsuccessful.

 

[jdpeters]

Usually a pretty good indication of M.E.N.

Remove it and look at the underside of the monti

I feel so dumb lol. I checked it at night with a flashlight a million times. There was 3+ of them. I took it off the plug, cut off the dead portions, scrubbed the heck out of the bottom then glued the ever living hell out of the undersides. Thankfully they haven’t spread to the rest of my montis, yet.

Are yellow coris wrasses as effective in predating as 6 lines? Any other options?

 

[jdpeters]

I would chuck it, it doesn't look like the frag is very big. MEN are very hardy, dipping its likely to be unsuccessful.

I cut it up cleaned it and superglued it but now I’m incredibly paranoid

 

[Kingsley_Reef]

I feel so dumb lol. I checked it at night with a flashlight a million times. There was 3+ of them. I took it off the plug, cut off the dead portions, scrubbed the heck out of the bottom then glued the ever living hell out of the undersides. Thankfully they haven’t spread to the rest of my montis, yet.

Are yellow coris wrasses as effective in predating as 6 lines? Any other options?

They are hard to see I’ve had them survive multiple dips in QT and it’s takes time to make sure they are gone just keep monitoring it

And not sure about yellow Cori’s wrasse

 

[jdpeters]

I feel so dumb lol. I checked it at night with a flashlight a million times. There was 3+ of them. I took it off the plug, cut off the dead portions, scrubbed the heck out of the bottom then glued the ever living hell out of the undersides. Thankfully they haven’t spread to the rest of my montis, yet.

Are yellow coris wrasses as effective in predating as 6 lines? Any other options?

They are hard to see I’ve had them survive multiple dips in QT and it’s takes time to make sure they are gone just keep monitoring it

And not sure about yellow Cori’s wrasse

Is throwing the frag out my best option? I did a pretty good job gluing it but I’m paranoid

 

[Staghorn]

If you positively Identify MEN on this frag get rid of it, it is not worth the ridiculous battle to get these things out out of your tank if they get established. Do you have any other Montipora? Check them all as well.

 

[jdpeters]

If you positively Identify MEN on this frag get rid of it, it is not worth the ridiculous battle to get these things out out of your tank if they get established. Do you have any other Montipora? Check them all as well.

I did a lot of work but I think you are right. I haven’t thoroughly inspected any other corals they all appear 100% ok currently. That coral had only been in the system for a month, im thinking tossing it unfortunately is probably the safest action

 

[Kingsley_Reef]

dang send it my way don’t trash it

 

[Staghorn]

Anyone that’s gone through a bout with MEN and subsequently lost allot of montis wouldn’t think twice about it. At least in my opinion, they are by far the worst coral predator.

 

[jdpeters]

Anyone that’s gone through a bout with MEN and subsequently lost allot of montis wouldn’t think twice about it. At least in my opinion, they are by far the worst coral predator.

Found more signs on another frag. I’m distraught. Thankfully my system seems to be growing favias and cyphastrea well. Might be leaning into that for awhile