Victoria M
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I thought I had some neomeris annulata growing again so I planned to pull some with my water change. This is what I saw when I got on a ladder
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Victoria M
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I really don't know what to do...
Start over?
Start over?
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the tank is 24" front to back. That rock is 60# or so.
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any suggestions?
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Victoria M
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good luck. that is how it started.
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Victoria M
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I removed all the fish. I was standing ready to bleach and got nervous so I put up another thread about the tank problems I am having.
One guy posted that his Mg was at 700, and he foolishly raised it to 1400 all at one time. The next morning all his neomeris was dead. He used Tech M. So he wasn't sure if it was the Mg or the Tech M impurity that kill bryopsis.
His post didn't mention what else he killed with this massive Mg jump. Not sure if he had nothing else in the tank or the jump did not hurt the fish/corals. I find the later hard to believe. Dose at your own risk.
Another thing to consider is that this plant has a calcium sub structure. Keep Alk and Ca at NSW levels. Some people have fixed their water parameters and had this die naturally after a couple of months when it could no longer compete for nutrients.
His post didn't mention what else he killed with this massive Mg jump. Not sure if he had nothing else in the tank or the jump did not hurt the fish/corals. I find the later hard to believe. Dose at your own risk.
Another thing to consider is that this plant has a calcium sub structure. Keep Alk and Ca at NSW levels. Some people have fixed their water parameters and had this die naturally after a couple of months when it could no longer compete for nutrients.
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Victoria M
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thank you blue cursor. I have found similiar stories on the net.
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Sorry for being dense, but what's the issue? Is it hurting anything?
We had it in one large display, but tangs would eat it all the time so there were never more than a few stalks around. I thought it was awesome because it was so different looking.
We had it in one large display, but tangs would eat it all the time so there were never more than a few stalks around. I thought it was awesome because it was so different looking.
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Victoria M
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Thank you for the reply. It has been invasive in my tank. My tangs have never touched it.
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it over grows everything. and is very ugly.
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On initial glance, it sounds like fish do eat it....although there are some anti-browsing chemicals involved.
Interesting results with a parrot fish and a tang here:
http://www.jstor.org/stable/24856120
"Effects of secondary metabolites and CaCO 3on feeding by surgeonfishes and parrotfishes: within-plant comparisons"
(JSTOR account is free....unlimited free reading of up to 3 or 4 articles at a time.)
Interesting results with a parrot fish and a tang here:
http://www.jstor.org/stable/24856120
"Effects of secondary metabolites and CaCO 3on feeding by surgeonfishes and parrotfishes: within-plant comparisons"
(JSTOR account is free....unlimited free reading of up to 3 or 4 articles at a time.)
mcarroll
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http://eprints.cmfri.org.in/7208/1/212-PROCEEDING_INDIAN_ACADEMY_OF_SCIENCE_1959.pdf
Sounds like increasing light levels (a little at a time) – or simply improving coverage if that happens to make more sense – might be worth trying.
(Based on experience + your photos + p.251 on that doc.)
Sounds like increasing light levels (a little at a time) – or simply improving coverage if that happens to make more sense – might be worth trying.
(Based on experience + your photos + p.251 on that doc.)
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Victoria M
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wow! what on earth are you reading to find this stuff? I have not found much info in these scholarly articles that I can apply to aquarium keeping, atleast to my understanding. I read that last article just shaking my head...lol. Thank you for your help. I am heart broken to share that my fish all died. Beloved 10-11 year old perculas and 7-8 year old queen angel. The hospital tank was just very small, and atleast one fish was ill and stressed to start with. They looked good then 36 hours later they were all dead.
large algae correction threads running years classifies neomeris as the #1 invader in reefing one doesn't want. above invasive dinos
above all algae one could catch, not one nubbin of neo should be foisted upon ones worst enemy.
not that opinions dont range on its beauty (prettier than bryopsis agreed) and on the marine algae id database its listed as "moderately easy to keep" heh===> but uniquely in algae correction threads where its unwanted
nobody cures it. Im aware there are one off threads saying it went away due to X
but in the threads where any cure method was repeated into someone else's tank, not one consistent approach exists for them. They beat the rasping method, strongest algae removing technique around. You can scrape an inch up under neo as it winds into rockword, more pops up.
anyone that gets a cure gets lucky, its non repeatable so far. threads w show different when the time comes, its a mighty humbler for algae fighters.
above all algae one could catch, not one nubbin of neo should be foisted upon ones worst enemy.
not that opinions dont range on its beauty (prettier than bryopsis agreed) and on the marine algae id database its listed as "moderately easy to keep" heh===> but uniquely in algae correction threads where its unwanted
nobody cures it. Im aware there are one off threads saying it went away due to X
but in the threads where any cure method was repeated into someone else's tank, not one consistent approach exists for them. They beat the rasping method, strongest algae removing technique around. You can scrape an inch up under neo as it winds into rockword, more pops up.
anyone that gets a cure gets lucky, its non repeatable so far. threads w show different when the time comes, its a mighty humbler for algae fighters.
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