Update - she seems to be doing fine this morning - medicated the tank with 20 drops of eSha NDX late last night.
Will try and feed later.
Will try and feed later.
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I'm rooting for your little one. How is she doing today?Update - she seems to be doing fine this morning - medicated the tank with 20 drops of eSha NDX late last night.
Will try and feed later.
I think stringy white poop can be from the fish not eating as well as parasites, but @Jay Hemdal would be a better person to confirm that.Thanks Christinna.
Well we medicated for nematodes with a preparation that contains levanisole for 24 hours - that treatment was over last night and we did a 25% water change and added a small bag of carbon to remove the medication. Not that I’m in any way sure that this was the problem. It was one of the medications I could lay my hands on where the symptoms ‘could’ match.
I’d like to say she looks a bit healthier from this morning. She has shown a slight interest in offered bbs by pipette - I’ve also been bring some brine shrimp on from the same clutch of the babies (most of which are in the fridge and brought out as needed) and those are about 1-3mm (about 5 days). I added some of those to her tank just now. Again she could see them I think but no feeding response.
She has also done a couple of stringy white poops. Couldn’t make out any worms specifically.
Bottom line - she is not yet feeding but there’s still hope!
I’m sorry to hear about your fish - you really did do your best for it and like us - you still have 1 of the 2.
Tinky (still in the display) is becoming tank boss at feeding time. He snatched a mysis from the blue spotted puffer’s mouth earlier today. He is quite brazen!
I think stringy white poop can be from the fish not eating as well as parasites, but @Jay Hemdal would be a better person to confirm that.
And thank you for your kind words. He should've been gone a long time ago, I'm glad I was able to be there for him the entire time, feed him some great meals and hold him in his last hour. Plus, he's made me learn so much more about treating very sick fish, I'll cherish that memory and experience he's given me forever.
It's funny you mentioned that about Tinky because my JellyBean is also becoming very aggressive around food. He's still in my observation tank and I have to be so careful with the feeding door whenever I feed him. He's almost jumped out from excitement several times lol.
I really hope she's eating something when you're not watching, although some fish can go without food for a month or more. That said, you're already doing everything you can, so hopefully she'll realize that soon enough!Hi Jay and Christinna
Thanks for that post Jay I hadn’t noticed it! Almost certainly anorexia as far as I can tell but the cause? No more stringy white poop since that last bout. No poop to speak of at all.
Winky is still with us and seems ‘ok’. We’re not sure if she is sneaking something to eat when we’re not looking. I’m strongly of the opinion that she would be dead by now if she wasn’t.
She does have live brine shrimp at several stages of development in the tank with her but we never really see her striking for anything.
We are still attempting to pipette feed frozen pods/other small foods several times a day but she shows no interest.
We are maintaining her water quality with small water changes/tank bottom cleanups every few days.
Thanks!I really hope she's eating something when you're not watching, although some fish can go without food for a month or more. That said, you're already doing everything you can, so hopefully she'll realize that soon enough!Hi Jay and Christinna
Thanks for that post Jay I hadn’t noticed it! Almost certainly anorexia as far as I can tell but the cause? No more stringy white poop since that last bout. No poop to speak of at all.
Winky is still with us and seems ‘ok’. We’re not sure if she is sneaking something to eat when we’re not looking. I’m strongly of the opinion that she would be dead by now if she wasn’t.
She does have live brine shrimp at several stages of development in the tank with her but we never really see her striking for anything.
We are still attempting to pipette feed frozen pods/other small foods several times a day but she shows no interest.
We are maintaining her water quality with small water changes/tank bottom cleanups every few days.
The only other thing I can think of is trying white worms. Maybe ask around in your local FB groups to see if anyone has some. They'll stay alive in the water for a few days, so she can hunt them down in her own time.
I think it won't hurt, as long as she eats something, anything really. I very occasionally feed frozen blood worms, but my tilefish has never been too crazy for them. That said, perhaps a live one would be a different story.Thanks!
I’ll be on the lookout for live white (or black) worms - must be one of the few live foods remaining to try. I recall Paul B had good success with rearing his own black worms.
I can get live (baby) blood worm but we have never fed these to our marine fish (only our green spotted puffer who sadly passed at a good age earlier this year) as I’ve heard they are not well suited.
Thanks!
I’ll be on the lookout for live white (or black) worms - must be one of the few live foods remaining to try. I recall Paul B had good success with rearing his own black worms.
I can get live (baby) blood worm but we have never fed these to our marine fish (only our green spotted puffer who sadly passed at a good age earlier this year) as I’ve heard they are not well suited.
Not Jay, but here's a good article from Jay about FW dips: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dips.968263/@Jay Hemdal I’m looking for a howto on freshwater dipping- I think at this point it’s worth a try.
I understand the basics - temp, aeration and and pH - and time 5-10 minutes depending on how the fish progresses. Also we will use a dark vessel to try and highlight anything that releases. Main question is how to buffer the pH. I have a digital Milwaukee pH probe that still seems to function ok. I have bicarbonate of Soda in the kitchen cupboard. An idea of how much to add would be great and also what to look out for in the ingredient list to exclude the product from suitability. Or alternatives to household bicarbonate of soda.
Thanks!
PS winky is still as she was. Grabbing some live blood worm today hopefully. The frozen stuff seemed to exhibit some response but we don’t think she has eaten any.
Thanks for your reply Christinna - that's perfect. I will read and digest...
Just a small note that only Neobenedenia flukes are visible to the naked eye. Any other flukes are too microscopic to see, so you probably wouldn't see them at the bottom of the container if that were the case.Updates on Winky.
We did a 5 minute fw dip just now - she got through it ok. She lay on her side for about half of the dip. I monitored her breathing which got up to about 2 breaths per second. Half way through she swam around a bit and then stayed upright - then she tried to jump a couple of times then lay back down for the last minute or so.
There’s absolutely nothing in the dark bucket which we performed the dip in.
She is recovering right now back in her little 22 litre observation/hospital tank. She seems to be recovering well - breathing is normal at about 1 breath per second. We will do a clean out and a small water change and reassess.
In other news - we went back to the LFS where we picked the pair up originally to pick up some live bloodworm on Friday afternoon. They still had 1 of the original 4 purple tilefish and they did a deal with us on it. This new tilefish was also rapidly acclimated - bag floated for temperature and added. Tinky was excited to see a new friend and was trying to poke through the bag. Once added Tinky quickly showed the new fish where he has been sleeping and the new fish actually followed him to check it out. It was a vey sweet moment. They both went to bed at the same time that night and were still hidden early the next morning when I checked.
They have been together most of the time since adding and seem to be getting along great. When we fed the tank after an hour or two both ate well and that’s been the case since.
So now we have a decision to make on Winky. We feel that we have done what we can and probably at this point moving her back to the display to be with her siblings is the right thing to do - whether she survives or not, she will be in company at least and not on her own. We will continue to add bbs and other live foods to the display.
I’d like to thank Jay and Christinna for their help and support throughout!


We moved Winky back to the display on Monday where she spent several days swimming occasionally with the 2 healthy tilefish - which was lovely to see. As the week went on she spent more time resting under the rockwork as it was obvious this newfound exercise regime was tiring her out more and more. She did not come out at all yesterday but we were able to see she was still with us last night.
Sadly we found that she had passed this morning.
The remaining pair seem to be the best eaters in the tank - always ready for a meal. To my knowledge she did not eat at all since she was in our care, which was a week prior to the original post.
Thanks again to Jay and Christinna!