Plating Montipora issuesi

[X-37B]

In my 1.5 year old ext 50 I have watched all plating Montis just waste away within the last 30-45 days. Prior they were growing well
Spiral monti on back wall, plating monti's, on rocks and frag plugs.

My montipora digis are growing well with no issues. All other acro frags look normal.

Only thing I did was remove some xenias around then but I still run.
4 fish
Temp 78
Sg 1.0265
Alk 7.5
Ca 480
Mag 1320
Po4-.13
No3-12
Radion xr15 blue ab+80%
Tunze 9410dc skimmer
Esv 2 part on Kamoer
Tunze ato
Tunze 6095
WC 5% once a month

I have never had this type of localized issues with Montis.
Plus the digis are fine.

Any ideas
I will take some.pics of the affected when the lights come on. This is prior to the monti issue

 

[Dburr1014]

That happened to me a while ago.
I was blaming the crude that collected on it but, even cleaning it off constantly didn't help.
It's almost like a virus as it happens.

Hope you get to the bottom of it OP.

You may want to take a frag and relocate it. That may save at least a piece of it all goes south.

 

[X-37B]

That happened to me a while ago.
I was blaming the crude that collected on it but, even cleaning it off constantly didn't help.
It's almost like a virus as it happens.

Hope you get to the bottom of it OP.

You may want to take a frag and relocate it. That may save at least a piece of it all goes south.

Thanks. I have 2 other systems with montis that are fine.
Bacterial or virus unknown.
It happens from time to time in the hobby. Only issue I have had in the past is nudis I have never seen them in any system.

Healthy piece of spiral monti, upper right, I fragged from my 15 and glued to the back wall about 4 weeks ago. It looked great now its almost gone.
I had 2 pieces of Kung pao on a rock growing out for a year. Within 1 week it was gone.

 

[mcarroll]

Only thing I did was remove some xenias around then but I still run.

How much disturbance was involved with this? Were rocks or corals moved?

Is this a frag tank or display – just curious due to the layout.

You mention a 6095, but I see a pump with a narrow shroud – is it really a 6055?

Seems like the tank may have fairly extreme light levels – true?

Also, some of your corals look quite large for a tank this young. FYI colonies larger than frags are often much more sensitive than frags, generally speaking.

...waiting to see current pics

 

[JGT]

Any chance you looked for MEN?

 

[X-37B]

How much disturbance was involved with this? Were rocks or corals moved?

Is this a frag tank or display – just curious due to the layout.

You mention a 6095, but I see a pump with a narrow shroud – is it really a 6055?

Seems like the tank may have fairly extreme light levels – true?

...waiting to see current pics

I cut, scraped, and removed the soft coral. One was about the size of a baseball. Maybe 4-5 pieces. It always grows back.
Maybe I removed to much at once. No rocks were disturbed

It's a frag/display I guess you would call it.

Yea it's a 6055,lol. I have so many used Tunze dc pumps I thought it was a 6095. Nice catch.

3 XR15gen 5 blue running ab+@80%. 250-300 par across the frag racks and rocks. Been this way for over a year.

I will get some pics in 2 hrs when the light get up to 100%.
Looked at it with a flashlight and it's white this morning.

 

[X-37B]

Any chance you looked for MEN?

Sorry what is a men?

 

[JGT]

Sorry what is a men?

Monti eating nudis… small, white nudis. Come out at night. Typically underneath or in the crevices of the nudis. Multiply like crazy. Can decimate a Monti pretty quickly.

 

[X-37B]

Monti eating nudis… small, white nudis. Come out at night. Typically underneath or in the crevices of the nudis. Multiply like crazy. Can decimate a Monti pretty quickly.

Forgot the abbreviations, lol.
I mentioned no nudis above. I have had them in other systems and they can be easily spotted.
It just appears to be some form of stn.
Anyway thanks.

 

[X-37B]

How much disturbance was involved with this? Were rocks or corals moved?

Is this a frag tank or display – just curious due to the layout.

You mention a 6095, but I see a pump with a narrow shroud – is it really a 6055?

Seems like the tank may have fairly extreme light levels – true?

Also, some of your corals look quite large for a tank this young. FYI colonies larger than frags are often much more sensitive than frags, generally speaking.

...waiting to see current pics

Digi has grown from the center stick. 2 spiral montis cut yesterday and spiral monti on back wall.

One month ago. Orange on the right gone.

 

[mcarroll]

Sweet looking tank, BTW.

I think the title may be throwing me off....is there a particular issue with plating monti's? Some of these look like other types that (at least IMO) are much more sensitive than the typical gamut of plating (often M. cap.)

I could be out of sync in the photos, but were a lot of frags added at once, they experienced a nice growth spurt, then die off? Maybe removing the soft coral is coincidental?

Still not sure what's going on, just trying to get a direction...

Do you do water changes (with what)?

 

[spsick]

I had a friend with a similar issue and dosing some witch hazel helped.

Have you run an ICP to see if anything is deficient? Typically montis are a canary in the coal mine.

 

[X-37B]

Sweet looking tank, BTW.

I think the title may be throwing me off....is there a particular issue with plating monti's? Some of these look like other types that (at least IMO) are much more sensitive than the typical gamut of plating (often M. cap.)

I could be out of sync in the photos, but were a lot of frags added at once, they experienced a nice growth spurt, then die off? Maybe removing the soft coral is coincidental?

Still not sure what's going on, just trying to get a direction...

Do you do water changes (with what)?

Frags come and go. This was 2 months before this started. A stag was removed, fragged and most were put back into the 150.
Alot of frags came from the 150 over time.

No icp
WC has been 5% once a month like my other systems for 1.5 years.
I use blue bucket.

Only affected caps and a plating Kung Pao.

This was 4 months ago.
All caps died back about 2 months ago and most were trimmed and then removed.
I tried the spiral a month ago and it has not much time left.
I will pick up an icp tomorrow.
I think I will do a 15g WC tomorrow.

 

[t5Nitro]

Monti caps in particular really like nutrient rich tanks and magnesium in excess of what you might think is an acceptable range. I notice dramatic improvements in color and growth rims in my montipora when the magnesium falls below 1400 by ICP testing. They would prefer they hang out in Mag of 1500 than 1300. I'd try some magnesium if nothing else is working.

And I really mean quick changes in plating monti health from the time they show visibly less color and growth. After about two days of adding epsom salt I notice they're back.

 

[mcarroll]

Other than the general disturbances of corals coming and going, I'm still at a loss.

 

[X-37B]

Monti caps in particular really like nutrient rich tanks and magnesium in excess of what you might think is an acceptable range. I notice dramatic improvements in color and growth rims in my montipora when the magnesium falls below 1400 by ICP testing. They would prefer they hang out in Mag of 1500 than 1300. I'd try some magnesium if nothing else is working.

And I really mean quick changes in plating monti health from the time they show visibly less color and growth. After about two days of adding epsom salt I notice they're back.

I will keep that in mind.
I have never had issue with mag in the 1300's.
My 150's current mag runs 1260-1300 due to heavy coralline growth.
I bring it up to 1300 when it gets to 1250ish.
never really considered bringing it up.
Jedi has always liked these levels.

 

[X-37B]

Other than the general disturbances of corals coming and going, I'm still at a loss.

Yea I do have alot of loss, lol.

 

[mcarroll]

lol...yes, bad choice of words