Please help!

[Charlie_11278]

I dosed my DT with cupramine and my blue tang is swimming upwards gasping for air and when I freshwater dipped her for relief she started bleeding almost immediately I'm not sure what to do

 

[Dsnakes]

What were you dosing it for - ich/velvet?

Cupramine is usually dosed in a quarantine due to copper absorption of rocks and sand.

 

[Charlie_11278]

What were you dosing it for - ich/velvet?

Cupramine is usually dosed in a quarantine due to copper absorption of rocks and sand.

Velvet the level is 0.50

 

[Dsnakes]

I haven’t heard of fish bleeding out as a symptom from anything before.

#reefsquad

 

[Charlie_11278]

I haven’t heard of fish bleeding out as a symptom from anything before.

#reefsquad

It was pretty horrid as soon as I freshwater dipped her she bled instantaneously

 

[NewGoby]

It was pretty horrid as soon as I freshwater dipped her she bled instantaneously

Where did she bleed from? The skin, mouth, eyes?

 

[glb]

Wow, I’ve never heard of this. I’m so sorry about your fish. Can you see any injury?

 

[EmdeReef]

Sorry about the fish.

One possible scenario

Copper in an established DT will cause a die off of inverts, microfauna, even kill some algae. It’s possible there was an ammonia spike and/or oxygen depletion which can cause blood vessels to burst.

Unfortunately, the shock would’ve beeen amplified in a fw dip after all that stress.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Copper which is chelated is very strong and likely the likelihood of ick or oodinum was present and strong concentration penetrated the cysts at6 the skin and caused them to be exposed and allow what you saw.
As others mentioned, copper best administered out of display tank and keep in ming useable gallons. If you have a 40 gallon tank with rock and coral, you have about 30 useable gallons so you are treating for 30 gallons, not 40
You will need to run carbon at minimum to get that copper out of your system followed by a series of water changes

 

[Charlie_11278]

Where did she bleed from? The skin, mouth, eyes?

Yes as soon as I freshwater dipped her she bled instantaneously from her mouth, fin, all over her body.

In the pics below all those spots are blood that showed up

 

[Charlie_11278]

Wow, I’ve never heard of this. I’m so sorry about your fish. Can you see any injury?

Yes It was all over her body

 

[Charlie_11278]

Sorry about the fish.

One possible scenario

Copper in an established DT will cause a die off of inverts, microfauna, even kill some algae. It’s possible there was an ammonia spike and/or oxygen depletion which can cause blood vessels to burst.

Unfortunately, the shock would’ve beeen amplified in a fw dip after all that stress.

The ammonia was 0ppm. She seemed to start swimming to the top and gasping for air when I added an air tube. I figured that it might've been the parasites taking effect from the copper so I attempted to freshwater dip her and as soon as I placed her in she was covered with bloody spots and started to freak out. I waited 4 mins (timer on phone) then placed her back in the tank.

{UPDATE} I took my fishes to a Lfs worker's house Hospital tank. Now I'm left with an empty tank with sand and the parasites

 

[NewGoby]

I'm honestly not sure what to make of this, after googling the symptons it'd come up with Enteric Redmouth Disease amongst other results. But it's weird that the fish bled after giving a FW dip..
I honestly have no idea, sorry