Red sea reefer 350 question

[Midnightdragoon]

I have a Red sea reefer 350. I noticed this on the top right corner seam of the glass. What is this, is this going to be a issue? When I push the front glass in that area.. I notice the shape move a little in that area.

I've also checked the bottom portion of the aquarium.... Seam appears to look fine. Anyone else with red sea reefer 350 with similar issue?

 

[brandon429]

When did you buy the tank, what year is it from

We are seeing patterned issues with 3-5 yr old models

I hate to just associate a pic of an anomaly + the brand Red Sea with a warning to transfer out of that tank, and not into another Red Sea, but given the number of breaks on file I’m 99.9999999% there

@Troylee is that a pre split indicator, or is that normal for reef tanks

 

[piranhaman00]

Pics under white lights.

However, appears to be another seam failure, and yes this happens to many people.

 

[Midnightdragoon]

When did you buy the tank, what year is it from

We are seeing patterned issues with 3-5 yr old models

It's a aquarium from 2020

 

[Bruttall]

go to the R2R search engine, type in Red Sea Fail, see the overwhelming evidence that Red Sea are not well made. Sorry bud.

 

[brandon429]

Without any hype that’s directly in the split group.



I’m sorry nobody who sold ads to you during that time is now standing up to warn you to transfer out, I’m currently trying to hold authors accountable for that lack of faith in what they sold you four years ago, but yes you should xfer out in my opinion, based on this:

Please do a review/ article on the massive amount of red sea tank failures for the last five years

Look, reefbuilders, a devastating G2 split Did you advertise to your readers a few years ago about the new G2 series, and potentially drive a bunch of sales for them through your site? Would we be able to look back, and find those sales ads...

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[brandon429]

From the perspective of ad makers: move along, nothing to see here, no comment on the 500 prior break examples just from 2023-2024…but if you click here u might win a new g2

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I’m thinking our plight is being ignored? Not sure

 

[brandon429]

@Midnightdragoon

Can we run / plan a tank transfer here? A few times on prior posts like these we were able to preemptively save the whole system, it worked great, here’s one example:

Are my tanks seams beginning to fail?

My tank is less than 2 years old. Picked it up brand new from a LFS. The other day I noticed some sand getting in the seam of the front panel. If I touch this area of the glass a little more sand falls down into it. What do you guys think? Anyone have any luck with Red Seas customer service? Do...

www.reef2reef.com

We can then use your fixed tank in pattern with others, to reverse this horrible trending. A blog writer or someone who owns a gigantic reef website was just about to suggest the same thing I’ll bet, just thought I’d quickly mention it

 

[Midnightdragoon]

Pics under white lights.

However, appears to be another seam failure, and yes this happens to many people.

Here's a Pic under brighter light

 

[brandon429]

The truth is, even without the pic my recommend is the same, due to year of production range. Even if the seams were perfect that’s in the known break lot per tanks from that one break thread. Be sure and search the other break threads for 2020 editions but I think you’ll see this same pattern

Want to engineer a skip cycle transfer out into a holding bin? I know how much work and cost that is, especially without a break currently in place, but I’m telling you these are built wrong in some way and your floors are not safe.

The tank can fail at any time, preemptive move is your only safe option.

 

[piranhaman00]

Wow ya that is one of the worst seam separations I’ve seen that is still holding water. That is going to split at any moment.

 

[brandon429]

Good to know P that helps on future pic troubleshoots.


Midnight you listened to that internal drive to check things out, well done. Turns out it was nick of time verification

We should skip cycle you into another container. It’s fun, easy, won’t hurt a thing. Turn on some loud music, get some totes and we can use most of your existing water it won’t be that bad at all.

Regarding what final tank you should wind up in…resist claiming warranty and getting a new Red Sea, I have fails of replacement threads available / they are in the warning thread already linked

Specifically, replacement tanks sent for tanks claimed under warranty have split, there’s an adage from 1860 about being burned once vs twice vs tres

I’m not sure how to indirectly say that I think rewarding Red Sea by moving your reef into a new one, without us being at year 2029 to see if they held up, is a bad gamble

 

[Midnightdragoon]

Good to know P that helps on future pic troubleshoots.


Midnight you listened to that internal drive to check things out, well done. Turns out it was nick of time verification

We should skip cycle you into another container. It’s fun, easy, won’t hurt a thing. Turn on some loud music, get some totes and we can use most of your existing water it won’t be that bad at all.

Regarding what final tank you should wind up in…resist claiming warranty and getting a new Red Sea, I have fails of replacement threads available / they are in the warning thread already linked

Specifically, replacement tanks sent for tanks claimed under warranty have split, there’s an adage from 1860 about being burned once vs twice vs tres

I’m not sure how to indirectly say that I think rewarding Red Sea by moving your reef into a new one, without us being at year 2029 to see if they held up, is a bad gamble

What is a safe reliable saltwater aquarium, similar in size to the reefer 350? Something that can last me 10-15 years no problem?

 

[brandon429]

I've been obsessively posting on line for 23 yrs, I've never known any brand other than red sea to post more than 2 breaks within 1 year.

Meaning I've seen marineland breaks on forums, one or two over the whole time, or one other brand might have one break listed, but I've never seen anything like the fifty or eight examples we have for red sea and that's just this site. If you Google it, a hundred places have multiple threads on it now. Pick any brand no joke, see what your lfs has that isn't rs

It will be great to engineer the biological part that's the real fun

We won't test any parameter other than temp and salinity, we won't need bottle bac or ammonia absorbers to simply slip cycle all that stuff right over in one pass.

 

[Bruttall]

What is a safe reliable saltwater aquarium, similar in size to the reefer 350? Something that can last me 10-15 years no problem?

Planet Aquarium is a Master Designer and a Master Builder formerly of Oceanic. They have a really nice selection of tanks and a pretty solid reputation. https://planetaquariums.com/

@Joe Glass Cages also makes tanks that have a good reputation.

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[Midnightdragoon]

Planet Aquarium is a Master Designer and a Master Builder formerly of Oceanic. They have a really nice selection of tanks and a pretty solid reputation. https://planetaquariums.com/

@Joe Glass Cages also makes tanks that have a good reputation.

Glass Cages | Custom Aquariums and Tanks

Glass Cages offers glass and acrylic custom aquariums and fish tanks. We design and build all of our products in-house to ensure the highest quality tanks.

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This whole situation just makes me want to leave the hobby.

 

[brandon429]

I know but it won't happen again is my bet

This is a rare tight predictable grouping of tanks, from only one maker, causing these patterns. Now that we've identified/ stay away from them this stress won't repeat

I've never seen it happen other than just that predicted lot: reef on Sir your setup is good good strong

When we move it we can remove all waste

Then in the new setup, part of the benefit of starting clean is you can now spot feed the corals in the new setup more than ever since a clean system won't produce algae

It'll be a growth spurt in all corals by month three after move, compared to no move is my bet

Yes it's big work

But you're shoring up your reef tank long term, we do this regularly. Sure to work!

Your new setup will be cloud free zero detritus, the corals will stand out tall from the base and the new system will shine

B

 

[Midnightdragoon]

I know but it won't happen again is my bet

This is a rare tight predictable grouping of tanks, from only one maker, causing these patterns. Now that we've identified/ stay away from them this stress won't repeat

I've never seen it happen other than just that predicted lot: reef on Sir your setup is good good strong

When we move it we can remove all waste

Then in the new setup, part of the benefit of starting clean is you can now spot feed the corals in the new setup more than ever since a clean system won't produce algae

It'll be a growth spurt in all corals by month three after move, compared to no move is my bet

Yes it's big work

But you're shoring up your reef tank long term, we do this regularly. Sure to work!

Your new setup will be cloud free zero detritus, the corals will stand out tall from the base and the new system will shine

B

I contacted red sea and they offered a few hundred towards a g2+. What do you think of the 350 g2+ or the 425 reefer g2+? Are they safer and more reliable? No issues so far with that line of aquarium?

 

[Bruttall]

I contacted red sea and they offered a few hundred towards a g2+. What do you think of the 350 g2+ or the 425 reefer g2+? Are they safer and more reliable? No issues so far with that line of aquarium?

With the preponderance of evidence of RS fails, they should give you a free set up and compensate you for all liverstock lost, damage to house, etc. And they offered a DISCOUNT!??? on another tank, that like as not will also fail. You're seriously considering it?

I'd insist they refund your full purchase amount at the least and I'd buy a more reputable brand if it was me.

 

[Midnightdragoon]

With the preponderance of evidence of RS fails, they should give you a free set up and compensate you for all liverstock lost, damage to house, etc. And they offered a DISCOUNT!??? on another tank, that like as not will also fail. You're seriously considering it?

I'd insist they refund your full purchase amount at the least and I'd buy a more reputable brand if it was me.

I'm also considering waterbox and innovative marine. Any of those two you think is best? I'm open to change at this point. But it's not something I can do immidiatly. It's going to take me maybe a month or so to get this rolling... All I can do is monitor the seam to make sure it don't get worst.