Reef Help!!

[Dburr1014]

I had uv on , but wasn’t doing much. Its not the dyos that disappear when lights are off, and then go to the watercolum.

If you can force them to go into the colum then the uv will help.
Draw and return into the tank. Suck out what you can and Do a lights out to help force. H2o2 at night like you are doing and microbacter 7 every morning.
Find out which ones you have of you can.

 

[gbroadbridge]

I really don't understand this current fad/craze of using Hydrogen Peroxide.

It's a bit like the ULNS fad a few years back.

H2O2 is an oxidizer.
it is poison to everything in the tank.
The strong survive, and the weak don't.

Dinoflagellates are one of the building blocks of an ecosystem.
Almost every coral has them in their tissues.
They are strong and and H202 at the low levels suggested will do nothing to them.

Better to use a treatment that specifically targets Dino's or just let other organisms outcompete them naturally.

Honestly, Chlorine Dioxide will kill the Dinos for sure, just dump some in the tank, thats even better than Hydrogen Peroxide.

 

[thatmanMIKEson]

I dont see dinos in those pictures, if so not bad at all, and probably not the main issue it looks like all new frags not happy that could be for a number of reasons. Is there any corals doing good in the system? I'm just not seeing any visible dinos in those pictures.

 

[njreefkeeper]

Well, I’ll offer a geezer’s 20+ years of insight. Nothing at all is wrong with your parameters. Changing any parameters right now can just about assure whatever SPS are left won’t be for long.

I looked at your equipment list and didn’t notice a very critical component of keeping SPS. FLOW. Do you have any flow whatsoever in your tank other than the return pump? See, when you add that much energy (light, food, available nutrients) and don’t have enough flow for SPS corals, they basically can’t “breathe”. So basically all that energy you’re giving them requires them to process it and release byproducts of waste. Unfortunately SPS corals simply can’t do that on their own without an adequate current to help remove that waste and bring new nutrients to them.

Your nutrients are on the high side...but they’re fine. To keep your nutrients there you must match both the lighting and the flow. I’d keep the lighting where it is for now. But adding a (for lack of a better term) **** TON more than what you’re providing in a random and chaotic pattern of flow is essential. And I mean move enough water so that sand moves and every inch of that cube is visibly showing water movement.

my .02

 

[branbray07]

For Dinos, I would bring those Nitrates and phosphate up.

nitrate 15-20
phosphate 0.1

feed phyto if you can get it.
dump the reef roids for now
don't dose hydrogen peroxide.

If all else fails, I've had good experience with Dino X.

Just be careful to caclulate the dose accurately. Too much will kill your coral.

The rest of your params look good.

Thats basically where they at now. I did discontinue roids for the time being. I ordered some Dyno , should be getting it soon.

 

[branbray07]

I dont see dinos in those pictures, if so not bad at all, and probably not the main issue it looks like all new frags not happy that could be for a number of reasons. Is there any corals doing good in the system? I'm just not seeing any visible dinos in those pictures.

They are there trust me. I had just finished blowing some of. Peroxide is working on them

 

[branbray07]

Well, I’ll offer a geezer’s 20+ years of insight. Nothing at all is wrong with your parameters. Changing any parameters right now can just about assure whatever SPS are left won’t be for long.

I looked at your equipment list and didn’t notice a very critical component of keeping SPS. FLOW. Do you have any flow whatsoever in your tank other than the return pump? See, when you add that much energy (light, food, available nutrients) and don’t have enough flow for SPS corals, they basically can’t “breathe”. So basically all that energy you’re giving them requires them to process it and release byproducts of waste. Unfortunately SPS corals simply can’t do that on their own without an adequate current to help remove that waste and bring new nutrients to them.

Your nutrients are on the high side...but they’re fine. To keep your nutrients there you must match both the lighting and the flow. I’d keep the lighting where it is for now. But adding a (for lack of a better term) **** TON more than what you’re providing in a random and chaotic pattern of flow is essential. And I mean move enough water so that sand moves and every inch of that cube is visibly showing water movement.

my .02

Sorry i never said flow. I have plentyyyyyy of flow. Im running 4 jebao MLW 20 set at random at 60%. I cant raise it higher without creating chaos lol. Plus return at 70%.

 

[branbray07]

If you can force them to go into the colum then the uv will help.
Draw and return into the tank. Suck out what you can and Do a lights out to help force. H2o2 at night like you are doing and microbacter 7 every morning.
Find out which ones you have of you can.

Sounds about right.

 

[thatmanMIKEson]

Check this thread out, does your's look like this or did it?

NEED HELP! sps and algae problem

So I’ve been having some problems for a couple weeks with algae and my sps. my tank was doing great before this. Great polyp extension on all corals. Color was good and my sps was growing fast then I started seeing some hair algae (I think it’s bryopsis) and some stringy algae on the back...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[branbray07]

Check this thread out, does your's look like this or did it?

NEED HELP! sps and algae problem

So I’ve been having some problems for a couple weeks with algae and my sps. my tank was doing great before this. Great polyp extension on all corals. Color was good and my sps was growing fast then I started seeing some hair algae (I think it’s bryopsis) and some stringy algae on the back...

www.reef2reef.com

Yea im 100% sure its Dinos