Ruby Reef rally pro inverts

[reefer10]

Hi, I wanted opinions on using Ruby Reef rally pro in a tank with live rock and inverts. Has anyone used it with an urchin and/or pithos crab.

 

[vetteguy53081]

VERY SAFE TO USE.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hi, I wanted opinions on using Ruby Reef rally pro in a tank with live rock and inverts. Has anyone used it with an urchin and/or pithos crab.

It’s fine with those invertebrates. I sometimes hear issues with corals, but I suspect those people were already having some issues, and their corals were stressed.

That said, the only disease I recommend this for is treating Brooklynella in clownfish, and then only because the better drug, formalin, isn’t safe to use in homes.

 

[SinkyShippy]

It’s very safe, but only effective against Brooklynella.

 

[reefer10]

Thanks for the help. I think I am dealing with brook.

 

[reefer10]

That’s with white lights.

 

[reefer10]

So I’ve used the rally pro for 5 consecutive days in the tank. It’s not really helping for what I thought was brook. Should I do a concentrated bath instead. If if it didn’t help in the tank, possibly not brook I’m dealing with?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

So I’ve used the rally pro for 5 consecutive days in the tank. It’s not really helping for what I thought was brook. Should I do a concentrated bath instead. If if it didn’t help in the tank, possibly not brook I’m dealing with?

The higher daily dip, in conjunction with the lower dose in-tank treatment works best. Still, this might not be Brook. Can you post a clear video of the affected fish? I'll be offline after around 4:30 EST today, but the other fish medics can view it and weigh in on what they think.

 

[reefer10]

 

[reefer10]

If you zoom in the affected area are noticeable. Slime on bottom of gill covers, edge of fins, and base of dorsal fins on the body, and eye slime is new last several days.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

If you zoom in the affected area are noticeable. Slime on bottom of gill covers, edge of fins, and base of dorsal fins on the body, and eye slime is new last several days.

It’s really tough to see through the algae on the glass - but the fish isn’t swimming like ones with brooklynella do.

 

[reefer10]

What is your thought? I also thought there would be labored breathing with brook?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

What is your thought? I also thought there would be labored breathing with brook?

Later on in the infection, yes, but early on you just see mucus on the skin, followed by a sort of stiff swimming motion….

 

[reefer10]

So you’re thinking it’s not brook? This has been going on for a month or so.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

So you’re thinking it’s not brook? This has been going on for a month or so.

Brooklynella typically progresses to death within a week or so if untreated. However, it isn’t clear to me if the low dose of RRRP that you used kept the infection partially in check, extending that time.

I don’t think this is Brook though. It could be skin mucus due to some irritant. It could be bacteria, but like Brook, that tends to get worse without treatment. Flukes can produce chronic infections, but the fish will be seen scratching.

So - let’s back up and see what else this could be:

How long have you had this fish?
Is it showing any other symptoms other than the skin mucus?
What are your water quality measurements?

 

[reefer10]

Had the fish about 12 years. It’s shown this type of stuff before, but not as severe. Has normally gotten better within a week to a week in a half. It’s been a couple years since the last time it happened. The eyes may be slightly bulging, but kinda hard to tell with the mucus film on them. Water quality is good. Any specific measurements you are referring to? Even this last time it was decently bad for a week or 2, got about 75% better, then just started getting worse. The first 3 days on rally pro was starting to look better, then the following 4 days got a bit worse. Not sure what could be an irritant? Though when I do a good water the fish almost always looks better for about a week.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Had the fish about 12 years. It’s shown this type of stuff before, but not as severe. Has normally gotten better within a week to a week in a half. It’s been a couple years since the last time it happened. The eyes may be slightly bulging, but kinda hard to tell with the mucus film on them. Water quality is good. Any specific measurements you are referring to? Even this last time it was decently bad for a week or 2, got about 75% better, then just started getting worse. The first 3 days on rally pro was starting to look better, then the following 4 days got a bit worse. Not sure what could be an irritant? Though when I do a good water the fish almost always looks better for about a week.

Sometimes, skin mucus causes are idiopathic, but a low pH is one possible cause.

I had forgotten about this, here is an article I wrote back in 2020 on mucus:

https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/mucus-the-slime-that-binds.793/