Seeking advice on Vibrant

[JSully_94]

I started dosing vibrant April 1st due to some annoying turf algae. I have a 20 gallon aquarium that I set up in January.

The Vibrant instructions suggest 1 ml for every 10 gallons every two weeks. I only dosed 1 ml of vibrant April 1st because I wanted to start out slow. My original plan was to dose 1 ml every two weeks. What are everyones’ thoughts on dosing 1 ml of vibrant every week?

My goal is to drastically reduce the turf algae without impacting my tank inhabitants.

Some tank parameters:

Temp: 77
Salinity: 1.025
pH: 8.0
Phosphates: .02 (May be lower now. Currently running phosguard)
Nitrate: 0
Nitrite: 0

 

[brandon429]

any system small like that is best disassembly cleaned and the algae directly killed vs working through the water, waiting for a target to rot, adding to internal waste stores we could just fix during the right takedown move. It’s less impact on your system vs sustained param changes from dosers, taking weeks sometimes.

Vibrant isn’t worth it here, it’s cheaper than twenty bucks to fix your system. That being said, people want the no work additive and they don’t mind the waste either, vibrant has indeed killed turf algae in some posts. There is nothing that beats surgical cleaning and target kill for nano reef longevity. Vibrant is for reefs so large you can’t get to the target directly.
vibrant has been used in a thousand nano reefs, per threads.


also in threads, the work we do fixing vibrant invasion trade offs: cyano x every reef that’s used it lol

My advice above is for both your invasions

the current and the coming one

using vibrant prevents you from fixing the first invasion challenge directly. Deliberately, without hesitation...core nano reef skillz

 

[sixty_reefer]

Your parameters seem a bit too low, have you got any coral in the tank?

 

[User1]

I hate to do this to you but here are 302 pages worth of information on Vibrant. It is a great thread and I strongly suggest you going through it if you haven't already. Also depending on how much algae you are dealing with it may give your test results a false reading (because they are consuming the nutrients and thus growing...).

I'm not going to get into should you, what works best, etc. However, if you want information on how the product works, when it didn't, how long it took, dosing information and what not. Then you need to read the thread.

Vibrant Liquid Aquarium Cleaner * Discussion Thread

Hello Everyone, We had been asked to come on this forum and answer a few questions about Vibrant for a few users here in different threads. We thought it would be a good idea to start a discussion thread about Vibrant, how it was created, what is it, how it works, etc. Then there will be a...

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[brandon429]

Nothing beats work threads for discerning truth in reefing via patterns. That’s one bad boy work thread

a sick way to use vibrant that nobody considers: don’t apply it to a wrecked tank for once in human history.

make the tank clean, remove the detritus feeding these tradeoff invasions, and kill the targets so we’re practiced on taking control of a small aquarium. Assemble a cloudless not invaded reef, then dose vibrant to prevent growback. Half as much might work then, and on much less target.


cyano won’t take over without that filth all around the tank

 

[Uncle99]

I used the recommended amount of 1ml per gallon but dosed every week, like your thinking.
For about 5-6 weeks, nothing, then in week 7-8 big reduction, in week 12 gone.
Had no effects on anything except the green hair and the bubble.
I still dose but every two weeks now.

 

[JSully_94]

any system small like that is best disassembly cleaned and the algae directly killed vs working through the water, waiting for a target to rot, adding to internal waste stores we could just fix during the right takedown move. It’s less impact on your system vs sustained param changes from dosers, taking weeks sometimes.

Vibrant isn’t worth it here, it’s cheaper than twenty bucks to fix your system. That being said, people want the no work additive and they don’t mind the waste either, vibrant has indeed killed turf algae in some posts. There is nothing that beats surgical cleaning and target kill for nano reef longevity. Vibrant is for reefs so large you can’t get to the target directly.
vibrant has been used in a thousand nano reefs, per threads.


also in threads, the work we do fixing vibrant invasion trade offs: cyano x every reef that’s used it lol

My advice above is for both your invasions

the current and the coming one

using vibrant prevents you from fixing the first invasion challenge directly. Deliberately, without hesitation...core nano reef skillz

So I have a birdsnest coral attached to one of my rocks. I figure I could just take all (3) of the rocks out and scrub them with a 1 part vinegar 2 part water solution.
1. Will this kill the beneficial bacteria on the rock?
2. Will this kill my coral?

 

[JSully_94]

any system small like that is best disassembly cleaned and the algae directly killed vs working through the water, waiting for a target to rot, adding to internal waste stores we could just fix during the right takedown move. It’s less impact on your system vs sustained param changes from dosers, taking weeks sometimes.

Vibrant isn’t worth it here, it’s cheaper than twenty bucks to fix your system. That being said, people want the no work additive and they don’t mind the waste either, vibrant has indeed killed turf algae in some posts. There is nothing that beats surgical cleaning and target kill for nano reef longevity. Vibrant is for reefs so large you can’t get to the target directly.
vibrant has been used in a thousand nano reefs, per threads.


also in threads, the work we do fixing vibrant invasion trade offs: cyano x every reef that’s used it lol

My advice above is for both your invasions

the current and the coming one

using vibrant prevents you from fixing the first invasion challenge directly. Deliberately, without hesitation...core nano reef skillz

I hate to do this to you but here are 302 pages worth of information on Vibrant. It is a great thread and I strongly suggest you going through it if you haven't already. Also depending on how much algae you are dealing with it may give your test results a false reading (because they are consuming the nutrients and thus growing...).

I'm not going to get into should you, what works best, etc. However, if you want information on how the product works, when it didn't, how long it took, dosing information and what not. Then you need to read the thread.

Vibrant Liquid Aquarium Cleaner * Discussion Thread

Hello Everyone, We had been asked to come on this forum and answer a few questions about Vibrant for a few users here in different threads. We thought it would be a good idea to start a discussion thread about Vibrant, how it was created, what is it, how it works, etc. Then there will be a...

www.reef2reef.com

Nothing beats work threads for discerning truth in reefing via patterns. That’s one bad boy work thread

a sick way to use vibrant that nobody considers: don’t apply it to a wrecked tank for once in human history.

make the tank clean, remove the detritus feeding these tradeoff invasions, and kill the targets so we’re practiced on taking control of a small aquarium. Assemble a cloudless not invaded reef, then dose vibrant to prevent growback. Half as much might work then, and on much less target.


cyano won’t take over without that filth all around the tank

Maybe just cease dosing Vibrant all together and just manually remove the algae with a water/vinegar solution per my response above?

 

[JSully_94]

I used the recommended amount of 1ml per gallon but dosed every week, like your thinking.
For about 5-6 weeks, nothing, then in week 7-8 big reduction, in week 12 gone.
Had no effects on anything except the green hair and the bubble.
I still dose but every two weeks now.

Did you experience any negative consequences? Cyno outbreaks?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Dose at 80% of recommended and at night. I did 2x per week and it worked FAST

 

[JSully_94]

Your parameters seem a bit too low, have you got any coral in the tank?

I have a birdsnest, GSP, nepthia, Pocillopora, candy cane, blue chalice, and Green Psammacora Coral. Everything is seemingly doing well.

 

[JumboShrimp]

My experience was like @Uncle99 who said:

“I used the recommended amount of 1ml per gallon but dosed every week, like your thinking. For about 5-6 weeks, nothing, then in week 7-8 big reduction, in week 12 gone.”

 

[Greg P]

Sully, your tank is very new and you're going to go through 'phases'
Part of this hobby is patience. It can take many, many months for your tank to 'settle'

My recommendation is to stop 'dosing' money and let the cycles happen.
You're going to go through diatoms, algae and other stuff.
If you keep throwing bottled stuff at it it'll never balance out and settle in.

Keep it clean with maintenance, remove uneaten food, scrub the rocks if they get hairy and use socks/floss to remove the scrubbed stuff.
Blow off the rocks, change the socks/floss whatever you use.

6 months from now you'll have a tank you'll be happy with and you won't have been chasing your tail spending money on products you didn't need.

Be patient and keep it clean !!!!

 

[JoshO]

I wouldn't necessarily agree there @Greg P . Vibrant is heterotrophic bacteria, waiting for our 4 month cycle to finish is effectively just waiting for that bacteria to form naturally. Vibrant is just speeding the process up.
I do agree with the level of maintenance you recommend though. Of course you have to team it up with good husbandry, its not a magic cure, you need to keep on top of maintenance and water changes.

 

[Greg P]

And I'll agree with you there @JoshO where you mention maintenance is needed.
I'll not agree with you about the heterotrophic bacteria and thinking Vibrant is helping the addition.
To each his own.
I'll not spend the money on something I haven't seen proven, and has been shown to cause more problems than are worth the money.

 

[JoshO]

And I'll agree with you there @JoshO where you mention maintenance is needed.
I'll not agree with you about the heterotrophic bacteria and thinking Vibrant is helping the addition.
To each his own.
I'll not spend the money on something I haven't seen proven, and has been shown to cause more problems than are worth the money.

Out of curiosity what issues have you seen it cause? I've seen a few tests where GHA have taken over badly as it's gotten rid of other algaes, but consistent use has eventually overcome this too.
I am 100% in the boat that agrees good maintenance and vigilance is the best cure, but I do think taking everything out and rip cleaning should be a last resort

 

[brandon429]

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perfect rationale but change it to peroxide vs vinegar, since this thread has about 500 before and after jobs for nine years

Reef2Reef Pest algae challenge thread hydrogen peroxide

What you are really in for: Hand cleaning, hard work siphon and rasp-removing of accumulations and invasions outside the tank and doing massive water changes is 90% of this thread, peroxide is 10%. We almost never dose peroxide into the tank water, this is a you-work-physically-hard as catch-up...

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if you read that, in a nano you’ll never have any other invasion for the life of the tank, you just simply opt out vs opt in. No harm to corals, we don’t touch non targets with the cure. There are truly many ways to fix your challenge, that way fixes the cause too.

one day all your algae surgery stops, don’t think this lasts forever. Hand guiding is required until coralline or coral flesh occupies the spot where algae once did (Biorejecting makes you not have to work one day, my last algae treatment was in about 2011)

notice key details that differ us from the masses:

-test rocks. You can tell on half a rock if this works, before you attack it all.

detritus
-only this system removes the fuel for your invasion, other methods compound it for future fights.

-contacting X to your nontarget corals...we don’t. Our work is target-specific. Any doser, med or pill isn’t target specific it contacts your nontargets

wait time
-however long it takes you to be willing is how long it takes to get your tank back from the invasion and your vinegar idea sounds 100% willing, peroxide is better.

-we wouldn’t apply vinegar or peroxide to a target, that’s what the masses do. The whole point on page one is to create a blank space where a target was (by rasping it off) and then attacking the former anchor spot with the burner liquid

****if you can’t get peroxide then yes, sub vinegar for spot work. Applied during nano surgery it will likely be the same, you can test it to know beforehand. Peroxide will be better though if accessible.

post tank pics

 

[Bob Weigant]

I used it but cut the recommended dosage in half. It worked for me

 

[SuperDodge]

I am dosing Vibrant now in a tank that has been neglected and I'm whipping back into shape. I've noticed some small changes over the first 4 weeks.

 

[tnw50cal]

I used the recommended amount of 1ml per gallon but dosed every week, like your thinking.
For about 5-6 weeks, nothing, then in week 7-8 big reduction, in week 12 gone.
Had no effects on anything except the green hair and the bubble.
I still dose but every two weeks now.

My bottle says 1 ml( 20 drops) per 10 gallons, am I missing something?