Should we rethink and refine means and methods for cycling tanks?

[DrZoidburg]

I have to be consistent - use the quote feature or no one knows what youre talking about

That goes for everyone jeez guys.

Right we can argue to the point we are blue in the face. No point in beating each other up, or insulting each other. Sorry you all felt belittled. I don't see it that way. Just going to leave it alone now ok?

 

[LRT]

Try this;

Seneye Experiments and Cycling

I got a seneye a few months back and accidentally over ordered some slides thinking they were expired... Long story short I have a ton of live rock, a fairly useless piece of equipment and a bad case of a desire to put some numbers behind cycling and experiment with some variables to determine...

www.reef2reef.com

Thank you sir Glad you haven't bailed.

 

[DrZoidburg]

Try this;

Seneye Experiments and Cycling

I got a seneye a few months back and accidentally over ordered some slides thinking they were expired... Long story short I have a ton of live rock, a fairly useless piece of equipment and a bad case of a desire to put some numbers behind cycling and experiment with some variables to determine...

www.reef2reef.com

Dude I didn't even speak in that thread haha.

 

[MnFish1]

That goes for everyone jeez guys.

The point was - I'm absolutely sure - not everyone felt belittled - only 1 or 2 people

 

[Garf]

Dude I didn't even speak in that thread haha.

Correct, but you know how things get mixed up on this site. Now you got proof

 

[LRT]

Dude I didn't even speak in that thread haha.

You spoke in this thread literally bashing work threads. You and MNFISH1
You admittingly never even bother to look at the work thread. Its been linked at least 5-10 times now.
Now your insulting mine and everyone else intelligence that's been here reading along.
Again

 

[MnFish1]

Dude I didn't even speak in that thread haha.

Dont worry - it got messed up at post number 2 in that thread.
SORRY - that will seem 'mean' - but it remains my opinion

 

[Garf]

Dont worry - it got messed up at post number 2 in that thread.

Considering I’ve only got one person on “mute” and can’t see posts 2 and 3, I’m sure I’m not missing anything I haven’t read a hundred times before

 

[DrZoidburg]

You spoke in this thread literally bashing work threads. You and MNFISH1
You admittingly never even bother to look at the work thread. Its been linked at least 5-10 times now.
Now your insulting mine and everyone else intelligence that's been here reading along.
Again

I admit i will at least look at it,

 

[MnFish1]

Considering I’ve only got one person on “mute” and can’t see posts 2 and 3, I’m sure I’m not missing anything I haven’t read a hundred times before

I did change my post above - to say 'SORRY - that will seem 'mean' - but it remains my opinion'

 

[LRT]

I admit i will at least look at it,

Ok so I've politely asked you not to conversate with me. I dont particularly care what you do at this point but I'd appreciate you not address me again.
I've been asked to report the trolling am I going to need to do that with you?
Your not going to destroy my thread.
Its way too significant to allow at this point.

 

[DrZoidburg]

Do what you want I don't have time for this. When you quote me or mention me. Do you not expect me to reply? Just going to leave it at that. Ok good bye. I tried to say earlier.

Just going to leave it alone now ok?

 

[MnFish1]

Do what you want I don't have time for this. When you quote me or mention me. Do you not expect me to reply? Just going to leave it at that. Ok good bye. I tried to say earlier.

I think he was agreeing with you.

 

[LRT]

Reported again.

 

[LRT]

Let's talk about cycling means and methods now

I happen to agree with @Randy Holmes-Farley.
Cycling with ammonia is genius

 

[b breef]

Thanks for bumping that post. That was an extremely helpful post from @ClownWrangler
I think you can safely say that if its wet and comes from the ocean it "alive"
I have some arag alive in my tank and critters love it. There are other options out there as well I think gulfliverock.com and a cpl others sell another option for sand from ocean.

Yeah I thought so too… seems like there’s a lot of discussion all around right now on cycling. Plus I’m having som trouble getting mine to finish. I already have some corals and inverts but had a fish die in about 12 hrs when I added him.
my fault because I got impatient. My ammonia read 0 a few days but then was .25 when he died.
im just reading a lot more and waiting. I feed my feed reef roids each day and my duncan mysis shrimp some and my snails and conch are continuously eating on the substrate. Toadstool,Duncan , favia, rhodactis are doing great. Psammacora is not so much.
I guess these corals don’t mind a little ammonia?
Anyway…. Yes I found this string of posts interesting
Thanks
bb

 

[MnFish1]

Yeah I thought so too… seems like there’s a lot of discussion all around right now on cycling. Plus I’m having som trouble getting mine to finish. I already have some corals and inverts but had a fish die in about 12 hrs when I added him.
my fault because I got impatient. My ammonia read 0 a few days but then was .25 when he died.
im just reading a lot more and waiting. I feed my feed reef roids each day and my duncan mysis shrimp some and my snails and conch are continuously eating on the substrate. Toadstool,Duncan , favia, rhodactis are doing great. Psammacora is not so much.
I guess these corals don’t mind a little ammonia?
Anyway…. Yes I found this string of posts interesting
Thanks
bb

It’s possible without knowing anything else that the death had nothing to do with the cycle

 

[MnFish1]

It’s possible without knowing anything else that the death had nothing to do with the cycle

Pa sorry about the death of your fiah

 

[LRT]

Yeah I thought so too… seems like there’s a lot of discussion all around right now on cycling. Plus I’m having som trouble getting mine to finish. I already have some corals and inverts but had a fish die in about 12 hrs when I added him.
my fault because I got impatient. My ammonia read 0 a few days but then was .25 when he died.
im just reading a lot more and waiting. I feed my feed reef roids each day and my duncan mysis shrimp some and my snails and conch are continuously eating on the substrate. Toadstool,Duncan , favia, rhodactis are doing great. Psammacora is not so much.
I guess these corals don’t mind a little ammonia?
Anyway…. Yes I found this string of posts interesting
Thanks
bb

I know quite a few folks that are dosing fuge with ammonia. Its always present to some degree. Its how quickly your tank cycles it out and continues to cycle it out is key here.
So many things could have gone wrong and would be hard to remotely address without knowing.
So you had 0 ammonia, got a fish, it died and your ammonia spiked?
How long was fish dead in tank before you found it?

 

[Lasse]

A tip
If you have possibility to measure nitrite - do that. Not because nitrite is toxic but if it goes near zero you know that the nitrification cycle is completed and the risk for ammonia spikes is minimal if you not increase your feeding to much,

As @MnFish1 said - you can´t rule out other reasons for the fish death than an ammonia spike.

Sincerely Lasse