Showpiece fish edition

[fishguy777]

Hi everyone, I am looking for the last fish/s, before I start adding coral. My tank is 80" by 26" by 26".
I already have: Blue spotted ribbon tail ray, Hi fin snapper, Aussie harlequin tusk, Naso tang, Achilles tang, Atlantic blue tang, Powder blue tang, Purple tang, Redsea sailfin tang, Hippo tang, Moorish idol, Blue throat trigger, Bi color angel, Flame angel, Magnificent foxface.

Large angels, most triggers, and puffers are unfortunately off limits because they generally go after stingrays.

 

[Pazzoman]

Hey, some reason the video isn’t uploading for me. Im assuming it’s about 180-200 gallon size tank. I think a lot of your fish that you have is beautiful already and probably aren’t maxed out yet. So eventually they will get big and be your show pieces I think. Also you might have to keep an eye on the angels and possibly tusk with corals. Think tusks sometimes bite corals to grind their teeth..but I could be wrong. Personally I think your stock is good especially when all
The fish max out size wise, but if I had to add a “wow” factor fish…I always loved Voltains Lions Fish. They will eat anything small, but in general are peaceful and look amazing. I don’t know for sure if it would coexist with your trigger, since they can be fin nippers.

 

[JonoH]

You have a Ray in that tank! :astonished-face:

Similar tank size to mine, albiet mine is a bit wider (32"), i cant see the Ray lasting in there personally, but not an expert so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[smitten with ocean life]

wow!! i would love to have a ray!! thats one of your stars!

 

[smitten with ocean life]

btw how big is your tank?

 

[VintageReefer]

btw how big is your tank?

80x26x26 = 234 gallons

 

[Cheese Griller]

Your tank is already maxed out. None of your large fish are fully grown, and even now your tank is very crowded. You have posted many questions about additional stocking and have been told the above every time, please take the advice of the experienced members on this forum.

 

[fishguy777]

You have a Ray in that tank! :astonished-face:

Similar tank size to mine, albiet mine is a bit wider (32"), i cant see the Ray lasting in there personally, but not an expert so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

With the blue spots, their tails are more the half of their length, so mine doesn’t mind the 26” width. He’s really only an 8” disk, excluding the tail

 

[unclejed]

Hi everyone, I am looking for the last fish/s, before I start adding coral. My tank is 80" by 26" by 26".
I already have: Blue spotted ribbon tail ray, Hi fin snapper, Aussie harlequin tusk, Naso tang, Achilles tang, Atlantic blue tang, Powder blue tang, Purple tang, Redsea sailfin tang, Hippo tang, Moorish idol, Blue throat trigger, Bi color angel, Flame angel, Magnificent foxface.

Large angels, most triggers, and puffers are unfortunately off limits because they generally go after stingrays.

My opinion is you seem to be at your limit. I wouldn't push it.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hi everyone, I am looking for the last fish/s, before I start adding coral. My tank is 80" by 26" by 26".
I already have: Blue spotted ribbon tail ray, Hi fin snapper, Aussie harlequin tusk, Naso tang, Achilles tang, Atlantic blue tang, Powder blue tang, Purple tang, Redsea sailfin tang, Hippo tang, Moorish idol, Blue throat trigger, Bi color angel, Flame angel, Magnificent foxface.

Large angels, most triggers, and puffers are unfortunately off limits because they generally go after stingrays.

lookdown or emperor snapper

 

[McPuff]

I'd say you already have several centerpiece fish. Nice list. My recommendation would have been an angel like a conspic or tiger.

 

[Cael Gallery]

Your tank is already maxed out. None of your large fish are fully grown, and even now your tank is very crowded. You have posted many questions about additional stocking and have been told the above every time, please take the advice of the experienced members on this forum.

Some of the fish will grow larger, some won't. I disagree that the tank is overcrowded. It's well stocked, and i wouldn't add too many more fish, but it's definitely not overcrowded

 

[Cheese Griller]

Some of the fish will grow larger, some won't. I disagree that the tank is overcrowded. It's well stocked, and i wouldn't add too many more fish, but it's definitely not overcrowded

I’m not sure if you can see the video, but the tank is already overcrowded and many of the fish haven’t hit max size. With the naso, snapper, sailfish and Atlantic blue you’re looking at 4 fish over a foot, add a ribbon tail ray and the rest of that stocking and you’re at your limit for an 80” tank, which isn’t even 7 feet, with a ton of active swimmers. If you look at his other postings he’s been given similar feedback on his other threads.

 

[Cael Gallery]

My suggestions will always be large wrasses in a large fowlr.
Unfortunately in australia my choices are limited, (after waiting for 3 months, i finally got ahold of a male paddlefin wrasse for a meager $550 which is a 6x markup from their price in the us) but if i lived in the US these would be my picks
1: Male Thalassoma genivittatum. Commonly about 5-7inches and well behaved for a Thalassoma. On the rare side but not overly expensive in the US. This is my personal favourite fish ever. Hopefully in the next 5 years one will be imported into australia and wil be less than $1000 :(

Newtons wrasse, Thalassoma newtoni
A small species of Thalassoma that doesn't often get larger than 6" even as a mature male. The blue facial lines are gorgeous. Commonly available at live aquaria

Another suggestion is a male Paddlefin wrasse. They might be the second most gorgeous wrasse in my opinion. Females look nice too but are small usually. Males also commonly 5-7". On the aggressive side of Thalassoma but nothing too bad.

Coris atlantica is another gorgeous wrasse. Coris gaimard, Coris formosa and Coris aygula get all the love in large tanks but these guys don't seem as popular for some reason. They're often available on liveaquaria. Can reach like 8" or so in captivity but often sold smaller. Coris have a reputation for being aggressive but that hasn't been the case, all of mine are model citizens.

And if it were my tank i'd round up the coris and thalassoma squad nicely with one or both of these gorgeous species

Both reach 7-8" in captivity and sold at a variety of sizes. Both species are extremely active and should be classed as sort of 'boisterous', but unlike most other boisterous wrasses completely non aggressive in my experience. But they aren't afraid to steal food off other fish. I had a 4" spanish hog in my tank a while back ($400 in australia!) and it was one of my favourite fish ever and the last surviving fish as the tank crashed. Cubans aren't quite as nicely coloured in my opinion, the purple on spanishes is just unmatched but they have a sleeker shape with nice long streamers as they age.

Anyways, i think you could have a lot more fish without that stingray in there. I don't know much about them but i'd be concerned they would eat fish and i've heard they need absolutely enormous tanks with minimal rockwork. But who knows.

 

[Cael Gallery]

I’m not sure if you can see the video, but the tank is already overcrowded and many of the fish haven’t hit max size. With the naso, snapper, sailfish and Atlantic blue you’re looking at 4 fish over a foot, add a ribbon tail ray and the rest of that stocking and you’re at your limit for an 80” tank, which isn’t even 7 feet, with a ton of active swimmers. If you look at his other postings he’s been given similar feedback on his other threads.

Literally none of those species reach a foot in captivity, except maybe the snapper which is the one i'd be worried about. Fish absolutely do not grow anywhere near their maximum size in the wild in captivity. Even in public size aquariums most fish are not going to reach max size and they grow even smaller in hobbyist sized tanks

 

[Cheese Griller]

Literally none of those species reach a foot in captivity, except maybe the snapper which is the one i'd be worried about. Fish absolutely do not grow anywhere near their maximum size in the wild in captivity. Even in public size aquariums most fish are not going to reach max size and they grow even smaller in hobbyist sized tanks

That’s just not true. Nasos routinely do, same with Atlantic blues. Desjardini sailfish also have capacity to get that large. Not every fish gets to their maximum wild size, but not planning for the fish you have in the scenario they do hit the maximum size is irresponsible. His entire posting history is trying to add more fish to undersized tanks.

 

[Cael Gallery]

That’s just not true. Nasos routinely do, same with Atlantic blues. Desjardini sailfish also have capacity to get that large. Not every fish gets to their maximum wild size, but not planning for the fish you have in the scenario they do hit the maximum size is irresponsible. His entire posting history is trying to add more fish to undersized tanks.

That tank isn’t undersized for any of the fish except maybe the stingray (i don’t know anything about them). It’s extremely easy to simply rehome a fish if it starts outgrowing its tank. Not that i think any of the fish listed are going to outgrow that tank.

 

[Cheese Griller]

That tank isn’t undersized for any of the fish except maybe the stingray (i don’t know anything about them). It’s extremely easy to simply rehome a fish if it starts outgrowing its tank. Not that i think any of the fish listed are going to outgrow that tank.

I never said the tank was undersized for any of the individual fish. The entire stocking plan is what makes the tank overcrowded. And although it can be easy to rehome fish, it gets more and more difficult the larger a fish gets. It’s irresponsible to gamble the well-being of an animal on whether or not you can rehome it or it’s tankmates down the line.

 

[fishguy777]

Some of the fish will grow larger, some won't. I disagree that the tank is overcrowded. It's well stocked, and i wouldn't add too many more fish, but it's definitely not overcrowded

I think I might blow my fish budget on 1-2 fish to finish out the tank, I do plan to get something around 90-120 soon, which I will be putting a lot of my current fish in.

 

[fishguy777]

I’m not sure if you can see the video, but the tank is already overcrowded and many of the fish haven’t hit max size. With the naso, snapper, sailfish and Atlantic blue you’re looking at 4 fish over a foot, add a ribbon tail ray and the rest of that stocking and you’re at your limit for an 80” tank, which isn’t even 7 feet, with a ton of active swimmers. If you look at his other postings he’s been given similar feedback on his other threads.

This many fish doesn’t pose a problem, when they get along, I have overdone filtration, and they won’t outgrow the tank.

Agree to disagree that a few of my fish will reach over 12”. It’s only the ray, snapper, and naso. The giant specimens of other species are caught at larger sizes. A Atlantic blue tang in the wild will always be larger than one in a tank.
I agree that the fishes need to be put ahead of greed for more additions, which is why I have places lined up who have taken in fish from be before, and will continue to do so.