Stocking 250 gallon

[Pseudodiego]

Hi everyone, Next month I'm upgrading my 80 gallon tank into a 250 gallon peninsula tank for my new home.

The tank will be 180 x 80 x 65 cm.

Here is the stocking list that I have on mind:

Acanthurus Leucosternon x 1
Paracheilinus Mcoskeri x1
Halichoeres Chrysus x 1
Cirrhilabrus Solorensis x 1
Nemateoleotris Magnifica x 1
Nemateleotris Decora x 1
Ecsenius Estigmatura x 1
Ecsenius Midas x 1
Salarias Ramosus x 1
Chelmon Rostratum x 1
Oxycirrhites Typus x 2
Amblyeleotris Hectori x 2
Pterapogon Kauderni x 2
Amphiprion Ocellaris x 2
Cryptocentrus Cinctus x2
Synchiropus Sycorax x 2
Synchiropus Splendidus x 2
Gramma Loreto x 5
Pseudanthias Squamipinnis x 5
Chrysiptera Talboti x 5
Chromis Viridis x 5

I know there is a lot of fish, but almost all of them are small/medium sized. Beyond the big export, and lots of rock for hiding, is there any other consideration that I should have with a stock like that?

Thank you.

 

[lapin]

5 gallons per fish. Thats a lot.

 

[mmodo]

So for the non-latin speaking, you have:

1x Powder Blue Tang
1x McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
1x Canary Wrasse
1x Red Eye Wrasse
1x Red Firefish
1x Purple Firefish
1x Tailspot Blenny
1x Midas Blenny
1x Starry Blenny
1x Copperband Butterflyfish
2x Longnose Hawkfish
2x Hector's Goby
2x Banggai Cardinalfish
2x Occellaris Clownfish
2x Yellow Watchman Goby
2x Ruby Red Dragonet
2x Green Mandarin
5x Royal Gramma
5x Lyretail Anthias
5x Talbot's Damselfish
5x Blue-Green Chromis

So, some questions and general comments:

• What do you already have in the 80 gallon tank?
• Dragonets and Mandarins are the same grouping of fish so it's not recommended to have more than one or maybe a pair if the tank is mature enough, but you don't want both in the same tank.
• I don't think it's recommended to mix Red Firefish and Purple Firefish. There's a high likelihood that they will fight.
• Do you know if the wrasses will get along with each other?
• Do you know if the wrasses will bother the Mandarins/Dragonets? Sometimes they compete for the same resources and I'm not well versed in Wrasses.
• Royal Grammas should not be kept in groups, so you should stick to 1 unless you know you have a bonded pair going in.
• That is a lot of Blennies and they may become territorial and start to fight. Maybe look at keeping two that exist in different spaces in the tank.
• Unless the Longnose Hawkfish are a bonded pair, that may not go over well.
• Are you planning on keeping any invertebrates for a clean up crew? The Longnose Hawkfish will eat them.
• You may have issues with keeping the Hector's Gobies from fighting.
• Powder Blue Tangs are known for getting ich very easily, which may infect everybody else.
• You may have issues with the pair of Yellow Watchman Gobies fighting unless they are already a verified pair.
• The Chromis group will probably whittle each other down until you have 1 left. They are also susceptible to disease and don't do well in general. Your choice, but might be worth saving money on.
• If you don't already have it, Butterflyfish are sometimes difficult in getting them to eat.

 

[Pseudodiego]

So for the non-latin speaking, you have:

1x Powder Blue Tang
1x McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
1x Canary Wrasse
1x Red Eye Wrasse
1x Red Firefish
1x Purple Firefish
1x Tailspot Blenny
1x Midas Blenny
1x Starry Blenny
1x Copperband Butterflyfish
2x Longnose Hawkfish
2x Hector's Goby
2x Banggai Cardinalfish
2x Occellaris Clownfish
2x Yellow Watchman Goby
2x Ruby Red Dragonet
2x Green Mandarin
5x Royal Gramma
5x Lyretail Anthias
5x Talbot's Damselfish
5x Blue-Green Chromis

So, some questions and general comments:

• What do you already have in the 80 gallon tank?
• Dragonets and Mandarins are the same grouping of fish so it's not recommended to have more than one or maybe a pair if the tank is mature enough, but you don't want both in the same tank.
• I don't think it's recommended to mix Red Firefish and Purple Firefish. There's a high likelihood that they will fight.
• Do you know if the wrasses will get along with each other?
• Do you know if the wrasses will bother the Mandarins/Dragonets? Sometimes they compete for the same resources and I'm not well versed in Wrasses.
• Royal Grammas should not be kept in groups, so you should stick to 1 unless you know you have a bonded pair going in.
• That is a lot of Blennies and they may become territorial and start to fight. Maybe look at keeping two that exist in different spaces in the tank.
• Unless the Longnose Hawkfish are a bonded pair, that may not go over well.
• Are you planning on keeping any invertebrates for a clean up crew? The Longnose Hawkfish will eat them.
• You may have issues with keeping the Hector's Gobies from fighting.
• Powder Blue Tangs are known for getting ich very easily, which may infect everybody else.
• You may have issues with the pair of Yellow Watchman Gobies fighting unless they are already a verified pair.
• The Chromis group will probably whittle each other down until you have 1 left. They are also susceptible to disease and don't do well in general. Your choice, but might be worth saving money on.
• If you don't already have it, Butterflyfish are sometimes difficult in getting them to eat.

Thanks. I have as follow in the 80:

-2 yellow watchman goby (Really easy to pair, just put a small and a big in a big enough tank and they'll pair)
-1 Copperband (Easy to get it to eat if you don't have any tangs/aggressive fish)
-3 Royal Gramma (again really easy to make an harem, just put them together when they're really small)
-2 clownfish
-2 Mandarin dragonets (They'll not fight with the Ruby dragonets, I had them together before)
-1 Mccoskery Flasher wrasse
-1 Yellow Wrasse
-1 Red eye wrasse
-1 Red Firefish (I have seen them together with the purple ones long term, in the oceanographic of Valencia. The tank is maybe around 1500 liters, and if I remember it right from previous visits there were two reds and one purple.)
-1 Banngai Cardinalfish
-1 Tailspot blenny

About the others:
-Longnose hawkfish are supposedly ok if the shrimp are big enough
-Was hoping for the chromis to be ok in that big of a tank.
-I'll check about the hector's gobies fighting, I remember reading somewhere that you can keep them as pairs. Same for those blennies.

Anyway I'm rethinking the stocking, I might go for an emperor in the 250, so I have to greatly reduce the number of total fish.

 

[mmodo]

About the others:
-Was hoping for the chromis to be ok in that big of a tank.

Anyway I'm rethinking the stocking, I might go for an emperor in the 250, so I have to greatly reduce the number of total fish.

I'm not a big fan of Chromis so that may be my bias showing, but I don't think they group well unless they are in very big schools. I've seen some people mention they have success at 11+. The way they are collected from the ocean leads them to be more sick and sadly a lot of them die so it would be perpetual replacement for a while. I personally wouldn't find it worthwhile. If you really want them, you may find success.

There's a thread that is currently ongoing right now on Reef2Reef about an Emperor in a 270 gallon where people are not recommending an Emperor. There were a few comments about needing an 8'+ tank. I would go an read that thread before making big decisions on that.

6x3x2 feet. Enough for an emperor?

Hi everyone. For those that had an emperor angelfish before, is an 6 x 3 x 2 feet tank enough for them? Thanks.

www.reef2reef.com

 

[Pseudodiego]

I'm not a big fan of Chromis so that may be my bias showing, but I don't think they group well unless they are in very big schools. I've seen some people mention they have success at 11+. The way they are collected from the ocean leads them to be more sick and sadly a lot of them die so it would be perpetual replacement for a while. I personally wouldn't find it worthwhile. If you really want them, you may find success.

There's a thread that is currently ongoing right now on Reef2Reef about an Emperor in a 270 gallon where people are not recommending an Emperor. There were a few comments about needing an 8'+ tank. I would go an read that thread before making big decisions on that.

6x3x2 feet. Enough for an emperor?

Hi everyone. For those that had an emperor angelfish before, is an 6 x 3 x 2 feet tank enough for them? Thanks.

www.reef2reef.com

Yeah, I created that thread. Some of the comments were about people keeping them in similar tanks, and I can put together an 800 gallon basement sump for it to live on it if in a few years it outgrows the tank.