Stressed Torch

[AlohaReef]

I have a torch Frag I have introduced to my tank roughly 2 weeks ago. He was seemingly doing good but it's a newer tank and I changed out my aquascape & that resulted in some pretty bad water quality. I have upped my water change schedule to 2 40% water changes a week as i try to stabilize everything. Have you ever seen a torch with swollen tips of its tentacles? Is this stress or something else? Its like he has bubbles at the end of its tentacles.

current parameters are not ideal for NO3, PO4, SG, & Mg:
Salinity: 1.024
Temp: 78F
pH: 7.95
Ca: 455
dKh: 9.1
Mg: 1185
PO4: .15
NO3: 19.3

I am currently mixing salt to perform a large water change to fix the salinity, nitrate, phosphate & MG.

 

[*GAREEF*]

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I have a torch Frag I have introduced to my tank roughly 2 weeks ago. He was seemingly doing good but it's a newer tank and I changed out my aquascape & that resulted in some pretty bad water quality. I have upped my water change schedule to 2 40% water changes a week as i try to stabilize everything. Have you ever seen a torch with swollen tips of its tentacles? Is this stress or something else? Its like he has bubbles at the end of its tentacles.

current parameters are not ideal for NO3, PO4, SG, & Mg:
Salinity: 1.024
Temp: 78F
pH: 7.95
Ca: 455
dKh: 9.1
Mg: 1185
PO4: .15
NO3: 19.3

I am currently mixing salt to perform a large water change to fix the salinity, nitrate, phosphate & MG.

kinda looks like it’s a frog spawn and not a torch.

 

[*GAREEF*]

Here’s my Frogspawn

 

[*GAREEF*]

If it’s a frogspawn totally normal. If it’s a torch I don’t know…..lol

 

[VintageReefer]

Torch would not have multiple polyps per tentacle

Do you have pics of this when it was happier ?

 

[VintageReefer]

@thamnasteroid what is going on lol

 

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@thamnasteroid what is going on lol

How’s that Yoga? Haven’t been to the thread in awhile.

 

[thamnasteroid]

@thamnasteroid what is going on lol

Honestly have no idea. Phosphates a little high though

 

[AlohaReef]

Torch would not have multiple polyps per tentacle

Do you have pics of this when it was happier ?

Sorry i can't find any pics not in blue light. It seemed very happy most of the time until now.

 

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Sorry i can't find any pics not in blue light. It seemed very happy most of the time until now.

I’m going with stressed Frogspawn not a torch final answer….lol

 

[VintageReefer]

This looks like a stressed and deflated….frogspawn torch lol I can’t tell

 

[*GAREEF*]

This looks like a stressed and deflated….frogspawn torch lol I can’t tell

Zoom in

Definitely a frogspawn…

 

[VintageReefer]

Zoom in

Definitely a frogspawn…

The occasional dual tip tentacle is something that happens once in a while on torch

I’m looking at the warts or knobs on the branches above that come out the tentacle and not the tentacle tip

I believe this is a sick cteature. Some type of infection or sickness is preventing it from inflating properly

 

[*GAREEF*]

The occasional dual tip tentacle is something that happens once in a while on torch

I’m looking at the warts or knobs on the branches above that come out the tentacle and not the tentacle tip

I believe this is a sick cteature. Some type of infection or sickness is preventing it from inflating properly

I believe those are areas that lost the purple Zooxanthellae from some sort of stress and with time will return with proper parameters restored.

 

[AlohaReef]

I believe those are areas that lost the purple Zooxanthellae from some sort of stress and with time will return with proper parameters restored.

I think the dual tips you're seeing are just other tentacles because the lighting is bad. Its all single tentacles, but the swollen tips have lost their color as well and look like warts. Also noticed the very end blue part has lost or changed color on some tentacles. I hope you're right. I am going to do a large water change & wait a few days. Then if all else fails maybe iodine dip / recovery dip.

 

[*GAREEF*]

I think the dual tips you're seeing are just other tentacles because the lighting is bad. Its all single tentacles, but the swollen tips have lost their color as well and look like warts. Also noticed the very end blue part has lost or changed color on some tentacles. I hope you're right. I am going to do a large water change & wait a few days. Then if all else fails maybe iodine dip / recovery dip.

Please keep us posted I’m very curious about this.

 

[VintageReefer]

I think the dual tips you're seeing are just other tentacles because the lighting is bad. Its all single tentacles, but the swollen tips have lost their color as well and look like warts. Also noticed the very end blue part has lost or changed color on some tentacles. I hope you're right. I am going to do a large water change & wait a few days. Then if all else fails maybe iodine dip / recovery dip.

What is this

even when it was healthier it has inflation issues, this section looks like webbing and is abnormal

Then later we have the knobs and swollen areas

I’ve never seen torch do this but I have seen inflation issues that this reminds me of and it typically is from sickness and bacterial issues

 

[AlohaReef]

What is this

even when it was healthier it has inflation issues, this section looks like webbing and is abnormal

Then later we have the knobs and swollen areas

I’ve never seen torch do this but I have seen inflation issues that this reminds me of and it typically is from sickness and bacterial issues

What would your course of action be if its bacterial? Iodine dip?

I grabbed some more pictures in white light.

 

[Dburr1014]

I have a torch Frag I have introduced to my tank roughly 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks and already having problems is not a good sign. Something is out of whack.

He was seemingly doing good but it's a newer tank and I changed out my aquascape & that resulted in some pretty bad water quality. I have upped my water change schedule to 2 40% water changes a week as i try to stabilize everything.

Larger 40% water change is not going to stabilize the parameters. Is there a possibility you can do 10% more frequently than what you're doing now? Changing out 40% all at once disrupts everything. IMO

Have you ever seen a torch with swollen tips of its tentacles? Is this stress or something else? Its like he has bubbles at the end of its tentacles.

I think I agree that this does not look like a torch. Does have the signs of a frogspawn possibly a framer but leaning heavily to a frogspawn.

current parameters are not ideal for NO3, PO4, SG, & Mg:
Salinity: 1.024

1.025

Temp: 78F
pH: 7.95

Day or night? Night okay but if this is your day reading probably drops further at night.

Ca: 455
dKh: 9.1
Mg: 1185

Bump this up a couple hundred minimum. You can do that in one dose no problems.

PO4: .15
NO3: 19.3

I am currently mixing salt to perform a large water change to fix the salinity, nitrate, phosphate & MG.

I would probably want to dose individually and do a smaller water change. IMO.

 

[skey44]

I’d guess lack of stable parameters especially salinity, with a possible infectious cause second. Torch is having trouble maintaining osmotic equilibrium with shifting salinity resulting in abnormal flesh inflation.

If infectious I’d guess viral and not bacterial. Likely due to stress. Which could also be caused by instability. Dip probably not going to help.

It’s a torch, just having a weird almost bouncing look going on. Frogspawn would have nodules along the tentacle not just the rare odd tip with two or three nodules. My torches ocasaionally have more than one tip as well.

Flesh band looks good. I bet if you stabilize your system it’ll be good. Agree with 10% weekly consistent water changes not major 40% change. Your parameters aren’t problematic in themselves. I’m guessing they’re shifting too rapidly for the torch to remain happy.

Also is it possible something is damaging or nipping the tips?