Sump Splitter - Cryptic Zone Cave

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Inspired by this thread https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/cryptic-zone-do-you-believe-in-it.357341/ and some other reading I decided to see if I could split my sump between a cryptic zone and growing macroalage (red ogo.) I want to be very clear this is a bit of an experiment I have no idea if it will work out to create a cryptic zone in my sump but I felt this was a low effort attempt at trying to make that more favorable. Beware.. the result was ugly... There are a few things I would do differently if I did it again and ill list these below.

So what exactly are we building? Well.. Basically a dark cave with some stalactite like structures to break up the flow. The goal being the sponges, feather dusters and other creatures which will consume leftover organics to aid in filtration will find this are more favorable to grow in. It will sit on the bottom of my sump and get the display tank return flow directed through it, on top ill put the Macroalage I grow. In effect splitting my sump creating an under Cryptic zone and a top zone with light and plants.

Items Used:
  • Small Plastic Tote - This was the mold for the Marco E400 and the exterior of the cave
  • Marco E 400 Aquascape Mortar
    • I have read that things grow better on Marco E400 Mortar then other epoxies and glues
  • PVC Tube
  • Saw (to cut pvc)

If I did it again:
  • Thicker walls all around
    • when the marco e 400 is done curing if its to thin it can be very brittle and snap apparent (this happened to me with 1 side of the cave wall
  • Build the openings with the marco e400
    • I built a solid box and then attempted to cut out the marco I needed to remove, it would have been better to just construct the openings how I wanted with the mortar
  • Prep the PVC tubes
    • with mortar around them or just make solid mortar stalagmites before so they could be pushed down easily into the cave structure
    • While doing this I wondered if it would be good to let water flow through these and out of the cave, but I capped all of them in this design

Design Concept
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Making the cave exterior
Having never used the mortar before besides for 2 frags it took alittle getting used to, the first wall of the cave exterior was way to thin. The thickness of the average smart phone may be to much but it shouldn't be paper thin either. The plastic tote used is the perfect size for my sump allowing me to easily just make a rectangular cave. At this point I should have made holes in the mortar for my flow rather then making it solid.
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Adding some Stalactites
I found that it was easier to take the PVC tube with some mortar in hand and roll it between your hands to get them evenly covered. Trying to make caps for them right now didnt work out for me so I rolled and put in all the PVC Stalactite additions and let it set. After it had set for a while I came back and made some little caps, I also attempted to fix up some thing spots; I wouldnt recommend trying to fix any thin spots yet, wait until you remove it.

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Remove from Plastic Tote
During this part I attempted to also cut holes in the dry mortar, I dont recommend this as much more will break then the area your trying to remove. It was rather simple to remove once dry i just flexed it a bit and flipped it over; the weight of it pulled it out. You can see here the result of to thin of mortar for the cave exterior.

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Some Repairs
After removal from the mold I built up some more sides..
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Its now finishing curing and will end up in my sump here later this week. I have a number of sponges and other filter feeders in my tanks (hitch hikers) and currently thinking about if ill seed this with something or just leave it be and let it grow on its own.
 
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After a conversation with the folks that make the Marco E 400 product I decided to cure it in a saltwater bath. There was no concern about any contaminants leaching but that it would attempt to depress the PH for alittle while. While I think my tank could probably handle the PH swing I decided to play it safe. Here are some photos of it sitting in water.

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Any updates?

So I have not flipped it to look once until today just for this update. Sorry about the salt creep and water marks still recovering from a plumbing failure Saturday....

So currently I have not been running my refugium light as I had a dino outbreak and there was tons of it on the macro Alage. But I have left this splitter unit were it was the whole time. Sorry about the photos very hard to take a good picture with flash, will try to get some better ones another time perhaps.
There are some white filter feeders starting to attach themselves but very very few. Anyone know what it is?
 

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I run a cryptic zone in a 5 gallon bucket on my tank. I have a very low flow coming in from the bottom, and then welling up through some rocks to the top, where it overflows into the tank. Mostly I have some filter worms and some very small sponges, don't have any of the big sponge growth yet I was hoping for, but it doesn't hurt anything. :)
 

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Do you have live rock that can introduce sponges? If not, check out your LFS, see if anything funky is growing in their sumps. They'd probably scrape some out for you.
 
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Wanted to give some more photos. I pulled the splitter unit out today and probably won't put it back, not that it was not working just that the rest of my sump is crawling with an excess of the same life and I want the room for equipment.
 

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