Tank birthday, 47+ years

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Hey there Paul, I have been reading the last few pages and following your thoughts on fish care with interest. I think it might be a generational thing, the negative reactions to your thoughts, as I am not too much younger than you. I think somewhere along the line it became hand sanitizer central in this world and I don't get it. When I grew up we played in the streets, creeks, ponds and forest. We scraped our knees, elbows, foreheads, and dang near everything else. By the end of the week in the summer I looked like I had been in a fight with a wolverine! Somehow we survived without hand sanitizer and so did our fish. Of course we used meds when needed, they just were not an every day thing as Dad was cheap and wasn't sure I was worth the cost. I think the skill of "thinking" has become lost, as well as the skill of reading the whole text. Keep on being you, never change and never apologize for having an opinion, they are free to disagree or stop reading or God forbid look to multiple sources and make they're own decisions.
 
Tripdad, Thanks for posting. Unfortunately Old School is near dead and so many people rely on other people's experiences for knowledge instead of experimenting or discovering things on our own. There is also so much scientific writings out there on things like bacteria, antibiotics and immunity that there is little need to ask an employee of an LFS for information when that kid probably last week was washing the floor at Burger King and never had a fish tank. I am not saying we should not read these forums, I read them, but read them with common sense. If you want to know about a specific fish, find someone who has had many of them over many years, not someone who got one last Tuesday and posts that he has great luck feeding it apple pie and hamburger helper.
There are some very talented people on here with healthy beautiful tanks, take advice from them. Some members have tanks I am jealous of. Very nice and most people here are extremely nice and helpful. Search them out.
I also don't think that every spot on a fish warrants some type of medication. Every time I get a cut, I don't put an antibiotic on it. As a matter of fact, I don't think I ever do. That's why I have an immune system. My close friend walks around with that hand sanitizer in her hand. She is always sick, I wonder why!.
I don't make a lot of friends talking about my methods and I think that is because most people started a few years ago and are in the internet generation where there is so much free information. No one checks it, but it is easily accessed and people will eventually find what they want to hear. Many people, even on here wished that I would just go away. I am old so I will soon. :confused:

I run a reverse undergravel filter which has been running with no maintenance or problems for over 40 years. People ask me all the time If I were to set up a new tank would I use a more modern, "better" system?
Like, is it me? Is there a "better" more modern system that has lasted longer or has less maintenance? Why would I do that?
I don't advocate UG filters for obvious reasons, people would laugh and tell me about that nitrate factory thing so I don't say anything. I just read about tanks crashing all the time, tanks that don't have UG filters.
I talk a lot about immunity and try to tell people how to get their fish immune. You would be amazed how much flack I get about that. So, again, I just read about all the tanks crashing from parasites and all the medications used. Lately I have not gone on disease threads because I don't feel fish should ever get sick so I would be the wrong person to answer questions about that.
Of course in 60 years of doing this I have encountered every disease and can cure most of them and I have in stores and wholesalers but if I presented my Ideas on a forum, I would hear nothing but arguments so I stay out of it.
I do however love to see a fish in an LFS that is covered in Parasites so I can get it for close to free. I can cure it in a day and have a great fish. (Not that I want to see a fish with parasites, work with me here)
I use things like diatom filters, something that very few people have heard about but it will remove parasites "from water" as well as most other things. It is old school and people would rather rely on medications.
Old school copper with formalin will kill any parasite in a day or two along with a diatom filter. If you add quinicrine hydrochloride to that, it will kill the parasites in less than a day. If I wrote a thread about that, how many people would put up that ich life cycle chart? I am tired of seeing that chart.:eek:
I wrote a book so I could print my theories and experiences without any drama. Now people just throw eggs at my house. :D

One of them even landed in my tank.
 
Today I went to physical therapy for my shoulder. The Supermodel who took care of me told me she never saw so much work done to one shoulder because she read the doctor's report of what he did which covers two pages. I explained to her that I am a real Man and not a Sissy, Girly Man so there was a lot of parts in there that I broke.
It was a pleasant experience but I am used to it after having five of these rotator cuff things. (and I like Supermodels)
The "exercises" she gave me to do seem to be geared to a 97 year old Lady so I should have no trouble doing them.
I am not allowed to lift anything but we are bringing a lot of food to my Daughters house in a few days so I needed to invent a way to carry stuff with one hand. My wife has MS and can't really carry stuff up stairs.
I built this (with one hand) to carry heavy pots using my good arm. I think it is very cool. What do you think.

 
Today I went to physical therapy for my shoulder. The Supermodel who took care of me told me she never saw so much work done to one shoulder because she read the doctor's report of what he did which covers two pages. I explained to her that I am a real Man and not a Sissy, Girly Man so there was a lot of parts in there that I broke.
It was a pleasant experience but I am used to it after having five of these rotator cuff things. (and I like Supermodels)
The "exercises" she gave me to do seem to be geared to a 97 year old Lady so I should have no trouble doing them.
I am not allowed to lift anything but we are bringing a lot of food to my Daughters house in a few days so I needed to invent a way to carry stuff with one hand. My wife has MS and can't really carry stuff up stairs.
I built this (with one hand) to carry heavy pots using my good arm. I think it is very cool. What do you think.


Come on Paul, you can find a more expensive and complicated way of doing it than that! Way too easy!
 
Come on Paul, you can find a more expensive and complicated way of doing it than that! Way too easy!

Probably, but try cutting that out using a Jig saw using only one hand! :rolleyes:

Ingenious, as always.

I could add some LEDs for effect if you like. :D
 
I held that bucket with my feet while I cut it with my good arm. :D
My tank is doing well, I can't change water or do things that require two arms but the fish will get over it. I am still target feeding my clingfish, mandarins, clowns and pipefish still spawning. I am having trouble getting live blackworms due to the drought in California so I am rationing them out. I do have plenty of clams to feed so they won't even miss the worms if I run out for a while.
All my gorgonians and sponges are growing well and I have been experimenting feeding them yeast almost every day. I don't know if it is helping or not, but it is fun as it clouds the tank for a while, then gets crystal clear.
You have to shake things up every once in a while so you don't get bored.
My water cooled LEDs are still performing perfectly so I don't have to tweek them but I will be tweeking the water cooled LEDs for my algae scrubber. Right now I removed that light and have a temporary store bought LED on that. I don't like store bought anything so I can't wait to re design that. It will be easier once my arm heals. I am also working on some very cool steam punk lamps that turn on and off with the water valve.
I don't know how far I want to get into that but I have too many ideas and not enough time. One will be a very big one for outside my house. It also has an air pump in it for bubbles. Very cool.
 
No theory behind the yeast besides it is a great food. Some people use it and their corals grow fine. I use it to feed my blackworms and they are smiling. If my corals croak, I will determine it was not a good idea. :eek:
 
I love "steam punk" art! Please, please share some pictures of your projects when you finish (and of any that you may have already done). They sound fascinating; love the idea of using a water valve for the on/off and air pump for bubbles!
 
There are instances when you should use either system, but they are hard to mix as a lot of people try to do.

I think that's really important. If you don't want your fish to be sick, you have to do one or the other. I think a lot of fish stores struggle to tell people right after they buy a tank that now they have to buy another tank, qt all incoming fish, medicate all the fish, and qt anything wet for 3 months (although some stores love to sell stuff). But if that's the system that you want to run, that's what you have to do. When I first got a tank, fish stores told me to try metro, garlic, and some other stuff that did just about nothing for my fish with ice. I lost all but one fish. Since then I haven't lost any fish to disease (although my green chromis strangely died a couple weeks ago... Maybe he was old). Other than that no problems. However fish stores seem to like to tell you to condition you fish with medicine not through a good foods, and imo is asking for diseased fish.
 
GettaReef I am amassing the things I need for my steampunk projects but will have trouble making stuff until I can move my shoulder. I have a lot of ideas and I think it will be very cool.
I already have a cool copper fountain in my back yard that has 5 moving parts and annoys the expensive Koi in there. The expensive koi are really 10 cent goldfish that got big but the neighbors don't know a koi from a duck billed platypus. :rolleyes:
 
Reading about the quarantine (or lack thereof) on these posts, I want to throw in my two cents.

I compromise a bit between both. I do QT them for 30 days' observation, but the only medication I use is one round of prazipro unless the fish does get obviously sick.

Yep, you can feed earthworms, but as you don't know what they've been eating, it's best to evacuate their bowels first. Usually, a gentle squeeze run from front to back is enough. You can, alternatively, keep them in something organic for 24 hours or so, to get any unwanted crap out naturally.

Back when I had a brackish tank, I had a green spotted puffer named Kirby. I gave him an earthworm one morning, and it was hilarious! He was nervous at first, but once he figured out that it tasted good, he started ripping the thing apart like a starved dog on a fresh meaty bone. XD
 
Reading about the quarantine (or lack thereof) on these posts, I want to throw in my two cents.

I compromise a bit between both. I do QT them for 30 days' observation, but the only medication I use is one round of prazipro unless the fish does get obviously sick.

Yep, you can feed earthworms, but as you don't know what they've been eating, it's best to evacuate their bowels first. Usually, a gentle squeeze run from front to back is enough. You can, alternatively, keep them in something organic for 24 hours or so, to get any unwanted crap out naturally.

Back when I had a brackish tank, I had a green spotted puffer named Kirby. I gave him an earthworm one morning, and it was hilarious! He was nervous at first, but once he figured out that it tasted good, he started ripping the thing apart like a starved dog on a fresh meaty bone. XD
I'm convinced that Paul adds extract of supermodel into his tank to keep things healthy. As a fairly new hobbyist there is no doubt in my mind I could not duplicate his success which is why I always QT.
 
Eienna, that sounds like a plan. I also had a puffer and he went nuts over earthworms. Anemones also eat them. I think everything will eat them.

Brew, Supermodels are a big part of my life. The Supermodels don't think so and I will have to get over that. I met and worked with a lot of Supermodels, but so far none of them wanted to date me. I guess it is because I am married otherwise I am sure they would be all over me like slime on an eel. :rolleyes:
When I go away for a few days there is a Supermodels who takes care of my tank and I could swear the corals grow over an inch and the fish are so happy they need to get plastic surgery to make their face bigger to fit their smile. :)
 
Eienna, that sounds like a plan. I also had a puffer and he went nuts over earthworms. Anemones also eat them. I think everything will eat them.

Brew, Supermodels are a big part of my life. The Supermodels don't think so and I will have to get over that. I met and worked with a lot of Supermodels, but so far none of them wanted to date me. I guess it is because I am married otherwise I am sure they would be all over me like slime on an eel. :rolleyes:
When I go away for a few days there is a Supermodels who takes care of my tank and I could swear the corals grow over an inch and the fish are so happy they need to get plastic surgery to make their face bigger to fit their smile. :)
Ok, she is just adorable!!!
 
I have an update on my mandarin feeder. A lot of people are having a problem finding an appropriate size mesh for the top of the think. I now use a piece from the inside of a reverse osmosis cartridge. If you cut off the ends of a used RO cartridge there is a large screen rolled up in there that has the perfect sized holes and it is enough to last you the rest of your life. It is also plastic so it lasts a long time and my urchin so far has not eaten through it.

 

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