Temperature to remove ich

[Richards Aquarium]

What's the highest temperature I can go to to speed up ich ? And how much do I raise it in a time period to get to that temperature?

 

[fishyjoes]

What's the context? Are you increasing the temperature of a tank full of inhabitants - or an empty tank that's being fallowed out?

 

[Richards Aquarium]

My bad. I have a hippo with ich. Then the rest of tank is 2 clowns, one diamond watchman gobie, one anthias, one firefish and red leg crabs and snails. I don't have qt. This is the second bout of ich for hippo he is doing good eating good he fought off first batch but here iam again.

 

[vetteguy53081]

What's the highest temperature I can go to to speed up ich ? And how much do I raise it in a time period to get to that temperature?

You cant really speed up the process of elimination for ich as you would with velvet however ich cycle can be shortened at 80.5 and with velvet 81-82

 

[Richards Aquarium]

. I have a hippo with ich. Then the rest of tank is 2 clowns, one diamond watchman gobie, one anthias, one firefish and red leg crabs and snails. I don't have qt. This is the second bout of ich for hippo he is doing good eating good he fought off first batch but here iam again. so am i ago raising the temp and how long should i take to get to the 80.5 its a 75 gallon

 

[Jay Hemdal]

. I have a hippo with ich. Then the rest of tank is 2 clowns, one diamond watchman gobie, one anthias, one firefish and red leg crabs and snails. I don't have qt. This is the second bout of ich for hippo he is doing good eating good he fought off first batch but here iam again. so am i ago raising the temp and how long should i take to get to the 80.5 its a 75 gallon

Raising the water temperature to cure ich only applies to freshwater ich. Marine ich is a different species and actually is more dangerous at higher temperatures. 78 f is the best temperature to use to keep the oxygen level up and keep the ich parasite from reproducing too fast.

Jay

 

[Richards Aquarium]

Thank you for the info. I wasn't sure. Have you ever watched father fish. I knew it applied to fresh water. I just didn't know about salt water.

 

[morrisDR]

Raising the water temperature to cure ich only applies to freshwater ich. Marine ich is a different species and actually is more dangerous at higher temperatures. 78 f is the best temperature to use to keep the oxygen level up and keep the ich parasite from reproducing too fast.

Jay

Hey @Jay Hemdal do you still stick with this argument? If so I'm going to do this is my main tank.

 

[Reef.]

But either way you would still have remove the fish I would have thought?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Hey @Jay Hemdal do you still stick with this argument? If so I'm going to do this is my main tank.

Yes - all else being equal, Cryptocaryon is much tougher to deal with at 84 f than 78 or 79 f. Low oxygen and faster reproduction just isn’t a good combination.

The “raise the water temperature” idea is so firmly entrenched in the hobby that it isn’t going away, but it’s wrong(grin). It works for FW fish, but like I said, that’s a different species.

 

[KrisReef]

Yes - all else being equal, Cryptocaryon is much tougher to deal with at 84 f than 78 or 79 f. Low oxygen and faster reproduction just isn’t a good combination.

The “raise the water temperature” idea is so firmly entrenched in the hobby that it isn’t going away, but it’s wrong(grin). It works for FW fish, but like I said, that’s a different species.

So, for discussion, what is the lower limit temperature for Tropical Reef fishes to

1. Improve fish health when dealing with Ich?
And
2. what temperature for just running everyday, again for healthy environment?

(I chill or heat mine to 77F, with seasonal drops and rises of ~3F (range) for the garage tank. It's fairly steady except in freezing and heat wave weather incidents.)

 

[PotatoPig]

Yes - all else being equal, Cryptocaryon is much tougher to deal with at 84 f than 78 or 79 f. Low oxygen and faster reproduction just isn’t a good combination.

The “raise the water temperature” idea is so firmly entrenched in the hobby that it isn’t going away, but it’s wrong(grin). It works for FW fish, but like I said, that’s a different species.

Could this be people incorrectly assuming the possible shortened fallow period at higher temperatures also means a shorter treatment period?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Could this be people incorrectly assuming the possible shortened fallow period at higher temperatures also means a shorter treatment period?

Yes - I imagine so. However, fast reproduction when there are fish hosts present means the disease is going to be more virulent. Copper takes time, and that is conflicts with faster reproduction.

One thing I have NOT checked; water that is lower in salinity can carry more oxygen. I have not tested to see if raising the temperature during hyposalinity works better than raising the temperature with copper.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

So, for discussion, what is the lower limit temperature for Tropical Reef fishes to

1. Improve fish health when dealing with Ich?
And
2. what temperature for just running everyday, again for healthy environment?

(I chill or heat mine to 77F, with seasonal drops and rises of ~3F (range) for the garage tank. It's fairly steady except in freezing and heat wave weather incidents.)

So - not all "tropical reef fish" have the same suitable temperature ranges. Then, the corals being housed may have their own specific temperature range.

As an overall "average" with mixed fish and coral species, I prefer 78 to 79F. My old coral aquarist liked 76 to 77 F.

 

[KrisReef]

So - not all "tropical reef fish" have the same suitable temperature ranges. Then, the corals being housed may have their own specific temperature range.

As an overall "average" with mixed fish and coral species, I prefer 78 to 79F. My old coral aquarist liked 76 to 77 F.

Fair enough, thank you.