The Wrasse Lover's Thread!

[eatbreakfast]

I am currently cycling a new 215g sps donimated mixed reef tank that will eventually live up to its name, Dolmotopia 4.0 Wrasses Revenge. lol. While i dont currently have a ton of wrasse experience, the new tank is finally going to let me devote the time and consideration I have been wanting to for years. My question is regarding compatible non-wrasse fish species. I have done the whole tang thing in the past and have been thinking of maybe going with Angels of the genus Genicanthus. Everything was looking good in my reading until I stumbled upon mention that they may agressively out compete other planktivoresce.g. members of the wrasse genus (Paracheilinus. Does anyone have experience keeping members of both genus? Im already totally planning on having at least a couple flashers. Please tell me that i can also keep these beautiful angels. Thanks

Genicanthus will "swoop" towards other planktivores, usually nothing too bad, just making sure they get their first food choice. Flashers will just get out out of the way.

 

[dragon99]

Currently have a Yellow Coris in DT. Looking to add some fairies now. Will a Rhomboid and Tricolor (Lubbocks) be OK with the yellow? Would they be OK in QT together?

 

[evolved]

Currently have a Yellow Coris in DT. Looking to add some fairies now. Will a Rhomboid and Tricolor (Lubbocks) be OK with the yellow? Would they be OK in QT together?

Yes and yes, assuming the QT is at least 20g.

 

[saltyhog]

Really? Great. What size system? That's encouraging. Thanks for sharing your positive experience.

Tank is 72 x 24 x 21. The angel was just an active feeder. The larger fairy wrasses were not intimidated at all. Like TJ said the smaller flasher wrasses would just veer off to avoid the collision with Bertha

This is a video at feeding time. Most of the smaller wrasses stay out of the picture. The leopard, Vrolik's, Lineatus, Pink Margin aren't intimidated. The pyramids actually were the dominant fish at that time.



And the calm before the storm

 

[Maacc]

Somehow I ended up a wrasseoholic. I have a melanurus, yellow coris, possum, mystery and solarensis in my reef. So far knock on wood, everyone is getting along, other than having my new clam in an acclimation box to keep the melanurus away.

 

[Paul87]

Tank is 72 x 24 x 21. The angel was just an active feeder. The larger fairy wrasses were not intimidated at all. Like TJ said the smaller flasher wrasses would just veer off to avoid the collision with Bertha

This is a video at feeding time. Most of the smaller wrasses stay out of the picture. The leopard, Vrolik's, Lineatus, Pink Margin aren't intimidated. The pyramids actually were the dominant fish at that time.



And the calm before the storm

Very nice! Love the lineatus, and that vrolik's doesn't look like anything is getting in his way. :)

 

[Paul87]

Somehow I ended up a wrasseoholic. I have a melanurus, yellow coris, possum, mystery and solarensis in my reef. So far knock on wood, everyone is getting along, other than having my new clam in an acclimation box to keep the melanurus away.

It's real easy to do!

 

[Dolmo5000]

Tank is 72 x 24 x 21. The angel was just an active feeder. The larger fairy wrasses were not intimidated at all. Like TJ said the smaller flasher wrasses would just veer off to avoid the collision with Bertha

This is a video at feeding time. Most of the smaller wrasses stay out of the picture. The leopard, Vrolik's, Lineatus, Pink Margin aren't intimidated. The pyramids actually were the dominant fish at that time.



And the calm before the storm

Thanks so much for the movie clips. looks like a very happy tank which is exactly what i needed to see. im sold on the idea now and cant wait to see which angel species my family (wife primarily) like the most. Any suggestions would be more than welcome. Thanks again!!

 

[eatbreakfast]

Thanks so much for the movie clips. looks like a very happy tank which is exactly what i needed to see. im sold on the idea now and cant wait to see which angel species my family (wife primarily) like the most. Any suggestions would be more than welcome. Thanks again!!

Watanabi is my favorite Genicanthus.

 

[scchase]

Watanabi is my favorite Genicanthus.

Mine too and one of the last fish I want for my wrasse tank.
Once I get that one and a leopard of some sort my fish list for that tank will consists of:
Rhomboid Fairy
Pink Margin Fairy
Orangeback Fairy
Lubbocks Fairy
Flame Fairy
Blue Flasher
Red Sea Eightline Flasher
Line Spot Flasher
Yellowfin Flasher
Hovens Wrasse
Purple Tang
Tomini Tang
Pearl Jawfish
Bangaii Cardinal x 2
Sunset Anthias

 

[Dolmo5000]

Mine too and one of the last fish I want for my wrasse tank.
Once I get that one and a leopard of some sort my fish list for that tank will consists of:
Rhomboid Fairy
Pink Margin Fairy
Orangeback Fairy
Lubbocks Fairy
Flame Fairy
Blue Flasher
Red Sea Eightline Flasher
Line Spot Flasher
Yellowfin Flasher
Hovens Wrasse
Purple Tang
Tomini Tang
Pearl Jawfish
Bangaii Cardinal x 2
Sunset Anthias

WOW! That is an enviable stocking list. Very much one i would love to aspire to. Man i cant wait to start adding fish to my new tank. May i ask what order you added the wrasses and heck, everything if you happen to remember. When would the angels be added in general?

 

[scchase]

Lets see if I remember right all were added in groups
1st
Lubbocks Fairy
Flame Fairy
Purple Tang
Tomini Tang
Bangaii Cardinal x 2

2nd
Line Spot Flasher
Yellowfin Flasher
Blue Flasher
Pink Margin Fairy
Orangeback Fairy
Sunset Anthias
Pearl Jawfish

3rd
Hovens Wrasse
Red Sea Eightline Flasher

 

[Wrangy]

So, how well do kuteri clade leopard harems play among one another in reef tanks? Single species of about 3/4 fish all female to begin with. Anyone with long term success? Or do they suffer similar problems like cirrhilabrus and paracheilinus and all turn male after killing each other?

 

[eatbreakfast]

So, how well do kuteri clade leopard harems play among one another in reef tanks? Single species of about 3/4 fish all female to begin with. Anyone with long term success? Or do they suffer similar problems like cirrhilabrus and paracheilinus and all turn male after killing each other?

Leopards generally do better as harems in aquaria than most other reef safe wrasses, especially when added simultaneously and as young individuals. However, the kuiteri complex is the most aggressive. So as they mature issues may or may not arise.

 

[Wrangy]

Leopards generally do better as harems in aquaria than most other reef safe wrasses, especially when added simultaneously and as young individuals. However, the kuiteri complex is the most aggressive. So as they mature issues may or may not arise.

That's what I'd figured but it never hurts to ask the experts :) I won't be getting m. kuiteri though as they're too similar to my h. melasmapomus which will definitely cause issues but looking to see if there's a slim chance of m. vivienae being imported for me :) ever since reading the RB articles by Lemon on them I've absolutely been in love with them!

 

[eatbreakfast]

That's what I'd figured but it never hurts to ask the experts :) I won't be getting m. kuiteri though as they're too similar to my h. melasmapomus which will definitely cause issues but looking to see if there's a slim chance of m. vivienae being imported for me :) ever since reading the RB articles by Lemon on them I've absolutely been in love with them!

Vivenae is less aggressive than kuiteri, they just aren't available very often.

 

[revhtree]

There is a reason I have custom tops being made for the new tank... ;)

 

[evolved]

Vivenae is less aggressive than kuiteri, they just aren't available very often.

And because of that, demand a pretty good premium.

 

[Wrangy]

Vivenae is less aggressive than kuiteri, they just aren't available very often.

Even less so when you live in Australia lol I have one of two rhomboids in the country and you guys have them everywhere :(
If they're allowed to be imported then I have faith my lfs will be able to get them for me :) he gets the best fish in out of any store I've seen :)

 

[Howieumd]

Even less so when you live in Australia lol I have one of two rhomboids in the country and you guys have them everywhere :(
If they're allowed to be imported then I have faith my lfs will be able to get them for me :) he gets the best fish in out of any store I've seen :)

Bell's Flasher are $40 on some sites I've seen in Australia and like $800+ here, if ever available.