Thoughts on Dr. Reef

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I am writing this to share a devastating, costly, and incredibly frustrating experience with Dr. Reef’s Quarantined Fish. I paid a premium to use a pre-quarantine vendor specifically to protect my mature reef system. Instead, their failed protocol introduced Marine Velvet into my tank, resulting in massive livestock losses and forcing me into a 76-day fallow period.
The Baseline: A Closed System
My main display tank has been a strictly closed system with absolutely zero new fish, coral, or invertebrate additions for over a year. Dr. Reef’s shipment was the only live vector introduced to my tank in over 12 months.
The "Squeaky Wheel" Fulfillment Gaps
From the start, the fulfillment process lacked the discipline you would expect from a strict quarantine facility. My orders only seemed to move when I manually emailed them to complain about massive communication gaps.
  • April 2nd: Placed the initial order for five fish. After weeks of silence, I emailed for an update. Only then was I told the order was ready, but that the initial Powder Brown Tang had died in their care. The remaining fish shipped, and the Blue Spot Puffer died 2–3 days after arrival.
  • May 6th: They agreed to ship a replacement Powder Brown and Blue Spot Puffer. Another massive communication gap followed.
  • Late June: I emailed again to demand a status update. Miraculously, the replacement order was immediately cleared to ship the following week.
This pattern strongly indicates that instead of adhering to strict, uninterrupted quarantine windows, they rushed fish into bags and out the door simply to appease an inquiring customer.
The Timeline & The Outbreak
  • July 2nd: The replacements arrived late via UPS under heavy stress.
  • July 2nd – July 16th: I conducted a strict 14-day observation period in an isolated tank. The fish showed no external symptoms.
  • July 16th: Believing the vendor's quarantine and my observation were enough, the fish were introduced to the display.
  • Mid-August: A massive, catastrophic Marine Velvet outbreak erupted in my display tank.
The Damage and Outbreak Dynamics
Because Marine Velvet is a gills-first parasite, a low-level, copper-suppressed infection can easily remain completely invisible internally during a standard 14-day visual observation window. Once introduced to my display, it took a few reproductive generations (about 30 days) to build a critical mass and explode onto the bodies of the fish.
As a direct result of this protocol failure, I have lost:
  • Lamarck's Angel (Established resident)
  • Hippo Tang (Established resident)
  • Powder Brown Tang (The replacement fish)
Beyond the immediate death of these fish, my system is broken. I am now forced to tear down my display tank to run it fallow for 76 days, while setting up and maintaining a secondary hospital tank to keep any remaining survivors alive with active copper treatment.
The Vendor's Response
When confronted with this exact timeline, Dr. Reef completely deflected. They claimed that since I didn't see anything during my 14-day observation, it couldn't have come from them. They relied on the outdated myth that velvet always wipes a tank out in "two weeks," completely ignoring peer-reviewed science on copper suppression and low-level gill infections. They outright refused to honor their service or their shipping insurance, stating they aren't responsible after two months (counting from the ship date to today, rather than the mid-August outbreak date).
Conclusion
Do not let your guard down with this vendor. Paying a premium for their "quarantine" service does not guarantee clean fish. If you buy from them, you absolutely must treat them as wild, unquarantined fish and run your own full, prophylactic medication protocol. Their rushed fulfillment and total lack of accountability have devastated a mature, beautiful ecosystem I spent over a year protecting.
How did you conclude your Fish died of Velvet? You included no detail about symptoms, behavior, eating habits, or what fish you have left in your Tank that need to be removed. Although your observation period was probably a bit too short, it seems unlikely Velvet would have showed up after an additional 30 days in your DT. Did you consider a problem or event with your Tank Setup might be the problem? R2R Medics are here to help members to diagnose, treat, and in some cases offer forensic opinions on why a Fish passed. I think to say that Dr. Reef caused your "Velvet" outbreak is premature and unsupported.
@Jay Hemdal
 
How did you conclude your Fish died of Velvet? You included no detail about symptoms, behavior, eating habits, or what fish you have left in your Tank that need to be removed. Although your observation period was probably a bit too short, it seems unlikely Velvet would have showed up after an additional 30 days in your DT. Did you consider a problem or event with your Tank Setup might be the problem? R2R Medics are here to help members to diagnose, treat, and in some cases offer forensic opinions on why a Fish passed. I think to say that Dr. Reef caused your "Velvet" outbreak is premature and unsupported.
@Jay Hemdal

I agree - Amyloodinium is much rarer than people believe. Proper diagnosis requires seeing a certain set of symptoms, followed by definitive microscopic examination. I have not seen a case in my own systems for well over a decade.

The primary escalation of Amyloodinium is: increased respiration, then not eating, hovering in water flow, followed by agonal breathing and death of all fish within 3 to 5 days.
 

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