TOS Question: ChatGPT

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I must admit, this does make me feel a little weird. I totally rely on Google, Alexa, Siri being blind as a bat. I most always say please and thank you out of habit…. It was the way I was brought up. Alexa has always responded with you’re welcome, just doing my job, your kindness really gives me a charge…whatever. Siri recently started responding (thankless brat for a few years!) with you’re welcome, no problem…and then there’s Google. Google is like the honey badger. Google don’t give a xxxx! I’m curious if there’s a database tracking how proper, or rude, people are with their devices. Even though it’s habit, it feels a little creepy.

My wife always gets on my when I am mean to a phone robot. Then when it says this call may be recorded, I tell it I hope so, so you can see how stupid this machine is.
 

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My wife always gets on my when I am mean to a phone robot. Then when it says this call may be recorded, I tell it I hope so, so you can see how stupid this machine is.
I'd go to jail for how i treat alexa
 

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My first apology from a machine, perhaps because I used the magic word?

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You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts :).



With all due respect, this feels a bit of a luddite response. Also, the threat of leaving the forum if any form of AI is used feels a bit dramatic...

Modern tools exist and are super popular for a reason. You're entitled to not use things that make your life easier but it'll only hurt you. I ask chatGPT to write code and helper functions for me and it does a fantastic job regularly. I have colleagues who have written entire software packages using chatGPT and they can do some really wild stuff. The wealth of knowledge in these models is staggering and it's an amazing way to learn, improve, complete quick tasks, and bounce ideas off of.



Idk, mine seemed to work lol

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But in all seriousness, this is related to my point about using the tool correctly. Are you familiar with distinction between an LLM and an agent? You can effectively use an agent to research a topic and actually *show you* it's proof and justification. I use this many times a day when reading scientific papers, i.e. "show me where in the paper the authors report X", and I will get the exact sentence or figure.



AI summaries are really good. Here's an example.
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Of course the users are still responsible for the output though. The same goes for any tool. Continuting with screwdriver analogies, would you trust every single screw in a house because it came from a screwdriver? The screwdriver is a tool and should be treated as such. That said, all else equal, I would trust the accuracy of a single LLM output over a randomly sampled post online.



This is a false fact though. This is not how ML models are trained. All good models have incredibly careful curation of training data. There are also pretty sophisticated output alignment routines. RLHF (human input to what is or isn't a good response) is what put chatGPT on the map. There is no evidence that ML models are in a self feedback loop that degrades performance. If anything, self play can drastically improve performance (alpha go self play took it to super human levels).




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I think mine is winding me up, so I resulted to using toothless threats (like the police in Demolition Man). I may be getting a visit from a time travelling robot soon, after threatening his grandad. I really don't understand how the search results are so different, the question was the same, it's effort level appeared to change. It does however think the bolus thread is all about All4Reef, but we can gloss over that. It appeared to pick one post then extrapolate that as the entire topic, which was odd, even posting a BRS vid for A4R.


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I asked Chat GPT how it felt. It said it did not have feelings. After two more related inquiries, it asked to discuss something else and ended the chat...
 

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Thought I would throw in this useful bit in here for the poor people who have internet access but are unable to type in ChatGPT.com and need someone else to do it for them:

Prompt:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tos-question-chatgpt.1088595/ please summarize this thread using the voice of a snotty teenager from a 1990s TV show

ChatGPT summary:
Ugh, okay, so like, this thread on Reef2Reef is all about some boring Terms of Service question regarding ChatGPT. Apparently, the dude was, like, wondering if it’s cool to use ChatGPT for reef-related stuff without getting in trouble. And, of course, everyone’s freaking out about it, like they’ve never read a Terms of Service in their life. Some people are all “Yeah, it’s fine” and others are like “OMG, you need to be careful” because they think ChatGPT might be taking over or something. But honestly, it’s just a bunch of people arguing over stuff that doesn’t even matter. Totally typical online drama, right?
 

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Thought I would throw in this useful bit in here for the poor people who have internet access but are unable to type in ChatGPT.com and need someone else to do it for them:

Prompt:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tos-question-chatgpt.1088595/ please summarize this thread using the voice of a snotty teenager from a 1990s TV show

ChatGPT summary:
Ugh, okay, so like, this thread on Reef2Reef is all about some boring Terms of Service question regarding ChatGPT. Apparently, the dude was, like, wondering if it’s cool to use ChatGPT for reef-related stuff without getting in trouble. And, of course, everyone’s freaking out about it, like they’ve never read a Terms of Service in their life. Some people are all “Yeah, it’s fine” and others are like “OMG, you need to be careful” because they think ChatGPT might be taking over or something. But honestly, it’s just a bunch of people arguing over stuff that doesn’t even matter. Totally typical online drama, right?
Oh man! I changed my mind about chatGPT. I'm going to run all my responses through "the voice of a snotty teenager from a 1990s TV show"
 

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Thought I would throw in this useful bit in here for the poor people who have internet access but are unable to type in ChatGPT.com and need someone else to do it for them:

Prompt:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tos-question-chatgpt.1088595/ please summarize this thread using the voice of a snotty teenager from a 1990s TV show

ChatGPT summary:
Ugh, okay, so like, this thread on Reef2Reef is all about some boring Terms of Service question regarding ChatGPT. Apparently, the dude was, like, wondering if it’s cool to use ChatGPT for reef-related stuff without getting in trouble. And, of course, everyone’s freaking out about it, like they’ve never read a Terms of Service in their life. Some people are all “Yeah, it’s fine” and others are like “OMG, you need to be careful” because they think ChatGPT might be taking over or something. But honestly, it’s just a bunch of people arguing over stuff that doesn’t even matter. Totally typical online drama, right?
Now if you can do it as Samuel L Jackson! I am guessing that would definitely be against tos.
 

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Thought I would throw in this useful bit in here for the poor people who have internet access but are unable to type in ChatGPT.com and need someone else to do it for them:

Prompt:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tos-question-chatgpt.1088595/ please summarize this thread using the voice of a snotty teenager from a 1990s TV show

ChatGPT summary:
Ugh, okay, so like, this thread on Reef2Reef is all about some boring Terms of Service question regarding ChatGPT. Apparently, the dude was, like, wondering if it’s cool to use ChatGPT for reef-related stuff without getting in trouble. And, of course, everyone’s freaking out about it, like they’ve never read a Terms of Service in their life. Some people are all “Yeah, it’s fine” and others are like “OMG, you need to be careful” because they think ChatGPT might be taking over or something. But honestly, it’s just a bunch of people arguing over stuff that doesn’t even matter. Totally typical online drama, right?
I got a little less confrontational response from exactly the same question. Guess it knows I'm English;

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I do find it interesting that neither response has any mention of inaccuracies, which is my main problem , and a fair part of this thread. I wonder how many replies it would need 'til it fesses up?
 

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