RyanS
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What was the visible effect of the zoa colony dying? Melt away, get covered with some kind of slime, or what? Just wondering what to look for.
Vibrant Killing Corals..
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CPR: lower your light intensity first
then large wc
the #1 move in reef CPR even above a water change is lowering lights and in some cases off altogether, then work the tank directly. That’s a legit bump this is a patterned issue and any pattern belongs in a log. They also have good ability w vibrant, it’s saved more valonia tanks than I can count. But until the % of these losses lowers we need this logged
if peroxide had a third of these losses we’d be drummed deep into a cave and they‘d plug it up
then large wc
the #1 move in reef CPR even above a water change is lowering lights and in some cases off altogether, then work the tank directly. That’s a legit bump this is a patterned issue and any pattern belongs in a log. They also have good ability w vibrant, it’s saved more valonia tanks than I can count. But until the % of these losses lowers we need this logged
if peroxide had a third of these losses we’d be drummed deep into a cave and they‘d plug it up
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Did you notice any change in the nutrient levels or alk consumption?
How long and how often have you been dosing?
I found that my corals were extremely sensible to small alk variations while dosing Vibrant and burned easily. I managed to control it by bringing alk down from 8.5 to 7.5. It wasn't a low nutrient issue.
You guys are scaring me. I had an algae problem about 1 month back and I started adding vibrant and I cut down the light schedule. I wasnt sure what did the trick but over the next 2 months the algae disappeared. I stopped using as im against adding chemicals to the tank. Just uesterday i noticed a small outbreak and added. I hope everythings fine in the end.
If this helps I have never ever seen one single delayed reaction.
100% were during dosing and of those it’s a small but painful few.
vibrant has a massive justified following. But
out of 100000 successful doses logged heres’s the .2 pct logged in one place, maybe somehow the collective group can find patterns for causes.
vibrant is a permanently valid reef tool if not for its valonia control alone, I would 100% use it if I had bad uncontrolled valonia
but it would be used differently: in a tank totally rip cleaned and free of any invader. Using less than a full dose the vibrant only has to work against building mass vs established mass, its amplified this way. Nearly everyone doses it full dose to an invaded setup, we can’t rule out offending rot chemicals in some of these instances so any form of pre removal of mass before degradation internally is ideal. In my opinion this is an honest and fair way to evaluate vibrant, it’s helped many it sure has.
100% were during dosing and of those it’s a small but painful few.
vibrant has a massive justified following. But
out of 100000 successful doses logged heres’s the .2 pct logged in one place, maybe somehow the collective group can find patterns for causes.
vibrant is a permanently valid reef tool if not for its valonia control alone, I would 100% use it if I had bad uncontrolled valonia
but it would be used differently: in a tank totally rip cleaned and free of any invader. Using less than a full dose the vibrant only has to work against building mass vs established mass, its amplified this way. Nearly everyone doses it full dose to an invaded setup, we can’t rule out offending rot chemicals in some of these instances so any form of pre removal of mass before degradation internally is ideal. In my opinion this is an honest and fair way to evaluate vibrant, it’s helped many it sure has.
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Could the issue actually be the the Vibrant is killing an unknown pest and the result of that pest dying is actually what is harming peoples tanks???
Very possible. That’s why it’s good science to just log everyone’s pics and tank/dose details and check for patterns.
for sure it would not harm systems to lower light intensity before using vibrant, that’s a harmless hedge to check. If I was a person considering vibrant there would be no harm in lowering the overall light intensity, the first safety recoup step, right off the bat. To corals it’s a mere cloudy week on the reef, the light can be ramped back up to ideal mid day burn after treatments are done
so mass pre removal before treatment sounds ideal
and lowering light intensity during treatment sounds ideal, both are harmless as stand alone helps.
for sure it would not harm systems to lower light intensity before using vibrant, that’s a harmless hedge to check. If I was a person considering vibrant there would be no harm in lowering the overall light intensity, the first safety recoup step, right off the bat. To corals it’s a mere cloudy week on the reef, the light can be ramped back up to ideal mid day burn after treatments are done
so mass pre removal before treatment sounds ideal
and lowering light intensity during treatment sounds ideal, both are harmless as stand alone helps.
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I have used vibrant in two of my mixed reef tanks with zero Negative effects. I guess I find it hard that bacteria would start killing things. Now I could see that if it was killing something like cyano then the result is toxins being released.
I've used it as well without issue. I believe that most adverse effects are from either other things happening in the tank or a result of the algae die-off in the tank which could cause NO3/PO4 spikes and then loss of the benefits of algae.
I will turn down my lights till everything seems pretty good, I honestly keep mine on pretty high so I’m sure the almost-stress isn’t helping thank you.
I didn’t notice any significant change in any tests.
I didn’t notice any significant change in any tests.
I tried vibrant just had some patches here and there but now I have the worst dino outbreak I ever seen I'm wondering how to get vibrant out of my system and go back the old fashion way of removing algae lol it's very aggressive stuff one bottle would clean a lake
Beware of Vibrant! I personally lost multiple corals from using it mostly sps but also some softies. Personally know two other reefers who lost corals as well during and….. long after use!!! From expert opinion using it for an extended length of time ends up creating some really tough super bacteria which then tend to stick within your rock work. Your frag racks may stay safe but anything in direct contact with the live rock gets a concentrated dose of the protozoans. You’ll see slow tissue necrosis long , months upon months after discontinued use.
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In case there are any readers of this thread who are not yet aware, Vibrant apparently is not bacteria as claimed by UWC. It is a chemical algaecide, exactly the same material as Algaefix.
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Does this explain reported issues on this thread ?
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I don’t recall what exactly was reported in this long thread, but the polymer it appears to contain is approved by the FDA to kill batcteria and mollusks, as well as algae, so it is certainly possible that it damages those organisms in a reef tank, as well as many marine organisms not evaluated in the scientific literature.
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A product that claimed to contain bacteria that multiple tests have proven contains no bacteria.
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