What makes you angry about this hobby

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The. Gatekeeping.

Especially in this forum, which is why I'm almost never here anymore.

Every single post, if you have ANY kind of question that might even be tangentially related, the FIRST thing you get in response is a string of four words. The same four words Every Dang Time:

What. Are. Your. Parameters?

And people will REFUSE to help you unless you supply them. The answer can be totally unrelated to your parameters and somebody is STILL going to demand you supply them like you have to "prove" you know what you're doing before you're "worthy" of their advice. The assumption here (and elsewhere) is that *everybody* with a question is a complete beginner without a single clue.

And heaven forbid you're a woman. Boy howdy, you'd better have those parameters in triplicate and NOTARIZED. Because what you "think" you've observed in your tank is *clearly* not what you've actually observed. And your incredibly detailed explanation? That's going to be completely skipped over and not read AT ALL because men who started their first reef tank 6 months ago Know What They're Talking About, but YOU don't because your 20 years of experience Doesn't Count.

It IS possible to have a respectful discussion with other keepers without gatekeeping. Too many of you simply enjoy lording it over others too much.

/rant
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part about if your a woman. I am and it is really obvious when you go into LFS that you could not possibly know what your are talking about.
 
Humans needing to control and dominate things. Aka doing things because we can, not should. Like housing sharks indoors, or trying to keep species we know are short lived in captivity for some wow factor. That crap annoys me
 
The fact that store employees pretend to know about everything theyre selling, know the answers to all your questions, and make up stupid names for corals. Yeah, I worked for a very popular one years ago and am speaking from having inside experience.

Then again, you cant always blame a salesman for trying his best to sell something...sometimes the customers are simply gullible or naive.
 
The. Gatekeeping.

Especially in this forum, which is why I'm almost never here anymore.

Every single post, if you have ANY kind of question that might even be tangentially related, the FIRST thing you get in response is a string of four words. The same four words Every Dang Time:

What. Are. Your. Parameters?

And people will REFUSE to help you unless you supply them. The answer can be totally unrelated to your parameters and somebody is STILL going to demand you supply them like you have to "prove" you know what you're doing before you're "worthy" of their advice. The assumption here (and elsewhere) is that *everybody* with a question is a complete beginner without a single clue.

And heaven forbid you're a woman. Boy howdy, you'd better have those parameters in triplicate and NOTARIZED. Because what you "think" you've observed in your tank is *clearly* not what you've actually observed. And your incredibly detailed explanation? That's going to be completely skipped over and not read AT ALL because men who started their first reef tank 6 months ago Know What They're Talking About, but YOU don't because your 20 years of experience Doesn't Count.

It IS possible to have a respectful discussion with other keepers without gatekeeping. Too many of you simply enjoy lording it over others too much.

/rant
You made me chuckle out loud with the “notarized” comment! 😅

This whole thread turned out (unexpectedly) to be a funny one only because it is so relatable. I’m newer to the hobby but came in fast and furious and have experienced a lot of this already.
 
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When people ask a question and allready have a predetermined answer. They will keep seeking for that answer until they get it. Some people are only in it to prove their own theories correct lol.
 
The price of salt mix these days 🥹
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You made me chuckle out loud with the “notarized” comment! 😅

This whole thread turned out (unexpectedly) to be a funny one only because it is so relatable. I’m newer to the hobby but came in fast and furious and have experienced a lot of this already.

The. Gatekeeping.

Especially in this forum, which is why I'm almost never here anymore.

Every single post, if you have ANY kind of question that might even be tangentially related, the FIRST thing you get in response is a string of four words. The same four words Every Dang Time:

What. Are. Your. Parameters?


/rant
This is why I always ask, " Male or female" Before I ever answer
 
You made me chuckle out loud with the “notarized” comment! 😅

This whole thread turned out (unexpectedly) to be a funny one only because it is so relatable. I’m newer to the hobby but came in fast and furious and have experienced a lot of this already.

The. Gatekeeping.

Especially in this forum, which is why I'm almost never here anymore.

Every single post, if you have ANY kind of question that might even be tangentially related, the FIRST thing you get in response is a string of four words. The same four words Every Dang Time:

What. Are. Your. Parameters?


/rant
This is why I always ask, " Male or female" Before I ever answer
So you know if you need to mansplain or not 🤪

Luckily I haven’t run into this too much where I live and everyone’s been cool. I just get weird looks because I ask the dumb newbie questions. 😅 I think the dudes in the LFSs also may think I’m buying fish for my husband’s reef which is far from the truth because my husband loves to see the two tanks we have now but unfortunately wants no more to do with them than that. Oh well.
 
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WHICH PART OF YOUR SETUP IS HARDEST TO REACH OR REMOVE FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE?

  • Glass behind or beside the tank

    Votes: 11 24.4%
  • Powerheads or wavemakers

    Votes: 3 6.7%
  • Sump or rear filtration chambers

    Votes: 6 13.3%
  • Skimmer or other filtration equipment

    Votes: 5 11.1%
  • Overflow or plumbing

    Votes: 8 17.8%
  • Lights or lids

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mine is pretty easy to access!

    Votes: 11 24.4%
  • Other—tell us what I missed

    Votes: 1 2.2%
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