What's up with the recent Red Sea Tank failures? 750XXL ? *UPDATE* Design Flaw CONFIRMED by Red Sea !!!

[TheHarold]

I get what he is saying...He is just saying that the design of the stands are the same in the sense that the center brace is not in the center and is off to the right, (or left depending on how you look at it) and if that design is to blame, then wouldn't it affect those tanks as well. Weight and length and water volume had nothing to do with it...just design.

Water volume and weight has everything to do it. Just because a poorly designed bridge can hold up 1 car doesn’t mean it can hold up several trucks.

 

[Marco S]

Water volume and weight has everything to do it. Just because a poorly designed bridge can hold up 1 car doesn’t mean it can hold up several trucks.

I get that also and wasn't trying to argue the point. You must be an engineer or a lawyer.

 

[Silver14SS]

The design may be the same, but I'm sure there's dimensional variations in each aquarium and stand constructed as well.

 

[ESAYARKAY]

Agree. Pictures would be really really nice - hopefully you took some for insurance./RedSea

Why do you think they are reluctant to provide photos, details about the store and even if and when they filed a claim with Red Sea?

 

[MnFish1]

You make so many assumptions in your effort to defend Red Sea, it’s killing ME lol. No, other tank models do NOT have to be affected. Their cabinet design could very well be insufficient for this one model.

How do you know that the other tanks must be affected? Did you compare the weights of all of their tanks, do a force analysis and failure studies on the stand material? I didn’t know you had a full engineering lab available- lucky!

It actually makes total sense.

Ummm - do you own one of these tanks? I own 2. The 750 XXL and the next lower size. The design is nearly identical. Im not defending RedSea - As I said yesterday - I actually am calling my insurance (and I've called RedSea x 2) - to discuss this issue - it would be a disaster for my tank to break in any fashion (leak or sudden total failure).

All I was saying is 'their cabinet design' is the same on this model as it is on the model 1 foot smaller. (I own both) - So - I'm looking for information - apologetically - it seems like you're just looking for argument. Because - believe me - I don't love RedSea. It could very well be that the longer design could be causing a problem - never said it couldn't - As to the rest of your comments - you know the answer,.

Please - feel free to list 'the assumptions in my effort to defend RedSea (its killing you lol - your quote) - All I want is to post what I've heard from RedSea - and get information about my tanks - whats yours?

 

[MnFish1]

Why do you think they are reluctant to provide photos, details about the store and even if and when they filed a claim with Red Sea?

Where did I say they were reluctant to provide anything? I asked for pictures so that I can analyze whats happening with my tank? I think your comment is a little 'off base'.

 

[TheHarold]

Why do you think they are reluctant to provide photos, details about the store and even if and when they filed a claim with Red Sea?

That’s a good point. I would like to see photos as well- anyone can join a forum and make claims.

 

[ReefDude2019]

Why do you think they are reluctant to provide photos, details about the store and even if and when they filed a claim with Red Sea?

I was wondering that also...something smells fishy, (pun intended).

 

[TheHarold]

Where did I say they were reluctant to provide anything? I asked for pictures so that I can analyze whats happening with my tank? I think your comment is a little 'off base'.

It was rhetorical lol. He is not asking you directly. He is saying it is suspicious for someone to join a forum to tell their story without any evidence.

 

[MnFish1]

I was wondering that also...something smells fishy, (pun intended).

The funny thing is - I didn't think anything sounded fishy - I just wanted to know what is causing the problem.

 

[ESAYARKAY]

@MnFish1
TheHarold
Valuable Member
"You make so many assumptions in your effort to defend Red Sea, it’s killing ME lol."
I've been following you closely throughout this thread and have found you to be an impartial and savvy Red Sea owner. That is the conclusion I drew from seeing you ask intelligent questions, make level headed comments and keep a relational conversation with civility.

 

[Marco S]

The funny thing is - I didn't think anything sounded fishy - I just wanted to know what is causing the problem.

100% agree with that statement!!! @Red Sea Any update on the investigation and what the root cause was??? PLEASE!

 

[MnFish1]

It was rhetorical lol. He is not asking you directly. He is saying it is suspicious for someone to join a forum to tell their story without any evidence.

Well then he needs to write better to his audience lol... Come on - in one second you're asking me why im defending RedSea in the next you're doing the opposite - please - dont reply. I dont want to argue with you. I just want the best information for the tank thats holding 210 gallons + of water in my house. Like I said - whats your reason for joining this discussion. Because - its not a philosophical engineering discussing IMHO - It involves thousands of dollars of personal property - that may or may not be covered by insurance. Believe me - I'm considering giving up my 'upstairs' tank - so its not an intellectual debate.

 

[MnFish1]

@MnFish1
TheHarold
Valuable Member
"You make so many assumptions in your effort to defend Red Sea, it’s killing ME lol."
I've been following you closely throughout this thread and have found you to be an impartial and savvy Red Sea owner. That is the conclusion I drew from seeing you ask intelligent questions, make level headed comments and keep a relational conversation with civility.

Unfortunately - I dont know if you think I'm asking valid questions - or @TheHarold - nor do I care - I think I've tried to explain where I am in this situation. I am certainly not defending @redsea - nor do I have any reason to do so

 

[ESAYARKAY]

Where did I say they were reluctant to provide anything? I asked for pictures so that I can analyze whats happening with my tank? I think your comment is a little 'off base'.

Oh, I wasn't asking you why YOU said they were reluctant, I was asking it because I think they are. That was a misunderstanding. My apologies.

 

[MnFish1]

Oh, I wasn't asking you why YOU said they were reluctant, I was asking it because I think they are. That was a misunderstanding. My apologies.

NO problem

 

[MnFish1]

NO problem

BTW - I wouldn't assume they are reluctant. I would assume they have a lot of problems in their house - and posting here is the last thing on their minds.

 

[MnFish1]

@TheHarold was right. I misinterpreted - which goes to the problem of the forums in general - its hard to tell

 

[Marco S]

@TheHarold was right. I misinterpreted - which goes to the problem of the forums in general - its hard to tell

That's what emojis are for. ;Happy If you are being sarcastic online and don't add a wink emoji or a tongue sticking out then you are just being a [Censored].

 

[ESAYARKAY]

BTW - I wouldn't assume they are reluctant. I would assume they have a lot of problems in their house - and posting here is the last thing on their minds.

Possibly. Although, taking the time to create a new account and sign up for R2R with all that entails, and write up that post is also very time consuming. Just a thought. Answering a couple of questions regarding where things are holding instead of copying and pasting yesterday's post wouldn't have taken too long.