Why has no one brought the DSR products to the USA?

[Daniel@R2R]

I've been following along with GlennF's reef system for a while now (it's CRAZY! If you've never seen his tank, check it out here!). He created the DSR (Dutch Synthetic Reefing) method, and I keep wondering why has no distributor stepped forward in the USA to bring these products here to the US?? I'm seriously jealous of my European friends who have access to this. LOL

Btw, if you've not seen GlennF's reef, here ya go... You're welcome!!

Photos by @glennf

 

[High ICP]

On a quick skim

Appears to be Zeo with generic bottles of supplements

And typical heavy Euro Zeo T5s

How far am I off, and how?

 

[Dr. Dendrostein]

I've been following along with GlennF's reef system for a while now (it's CRAZY! If you've never seen his tank, check it out here!). He created the DSR (Dutch Synthetic Reefing) method, and I keep wondering why has no distributor stepped forward in the USA to bring these products here to the US?? I'm seriously jealous of my European friends who have access to this. LOL

Btw, if you've not seen GlennF's reef, here ya go... You're welcome!!

Photos by @glennf

DSR,been around since 80's?

 

[Hitman]

What a beautiful tank!

 

[cracker]

Glenn F's tank is an inspiration. He's been around for a long time . Iv'e read several articles about his methods but have forgotten half.

 

[rushbattle]

I don’t usually respond to these poll threads, but y’all gotta check out Glenn’s setup. It’s crazy what he’s doing.

 

[Dkeller_nc]

One interesting thing about Glenn's method is that he was considerably ahead of the curve. Essentially, it's the philosophy behind the Triton method, which is testing for (and supplementing) major and minor trace elements. He started this the hard way - with lots of wet chemistry tests. One thing I've never been able to puzzle out is how he could prevent a significant sulfate/chloride ratio shift over natural seawater, since he's continually adding sodium with the sodium bicarb, and chloride with the calcium chloride. As the specific gravity is adjusted to match seawater, the sulfate content would naturally go down relative to the chloride, as most tanks just don't consume much magnesium (which would be the opportunity to add sulfate back in the form of magnesium sulfate).

It might well be that sulfate in seawater just isn't something that matters to our corals, fish and invertebrates.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Need more info as many are unfamiliar with this method. We endured the same with Triton and then balling method. Too many methods. . . LOL

 

[rushbattle]

DSR,been around since 80's?

No, since the 00’s.

 

[rushbattle]

On a quick skim

Appears to be Zeo with generic bottles of supplements

And typical heavy Euro Zeo T5s

How far am I off, and how?

DSR controls alkalinity/ca, major and minors like Mg, K, Sr, S, I, Mn, Fe, etc. etc. Simultaneously controls N and P levels. Would be considered high N and P compared to Zeo. Doesn't involve a bunch of dropper bottles of whatever like zeo. Glenn does prefer T5 lighting, but has been adding in LED lighting recently. Uses a neat idea, the powerfilter. I use one on all of my systems most of the time. Works really well to control N and P if that's needed.
http://dsrreefing.com/powerfilter/

 

[Dr. Dendrostein]

No, since the 00’s.

I'm confusing it with Berlin filtration

 

[High ICP]

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[High ICP]

DSR controls alkalinity/ca, major and minors like Mg, K, Sr, S, I, Mn, Fe, etc. etc. Simultaneously controls N and P levels. Would be considered high N and P compared to Zeo. Doesn't involve a bunch of dropper bottles of whatever like zeo. Glenn does prefer T5 lighting, but has been adding in LED lighting recently. Uses a neat idea, the powerfilter. I use one on all of my systems most of the time. Works really well to control N and P if that's needed.
http://dsrreefing.com/powerfilter/

The first pics have a bunch of zeolites in the sump, so he's pulling out ammonia before it breaks down like Zeo does


And he tests for trace elements that Triton does


I hadn't heard of ICP testing in 2015 when I got out. I assume and still assume that nitrate is in one of the blue bottles, probably Sponge Power. And trace elements are in the other blue bottles, assumption continued.

 

[rushbattle]

The first pics have a bunch of zeolites in the sump, so he's pulling out ammonia before it breaks down like Zeo does


And he tests for trace elements that Triton does


I hadn't heard of ICP testing in 2015 when I got out. I assume and still assume that nitrate is in one of the blue bottles, probably Sponge Power. And trace elements are in the other blue bottles, assumption continued.

He only experimented with zeolites. Not a part of his normal method and hasn't used them for years. He uses normal hobby grade test kits for testing. And doesn't do water changes, which is not Zeo at all as far as I know.

 

[zie2695]

I already tried bringing this up months ago and received nothing but negativity!

Link to my thread.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/w...ic-reefing-products-for-the-us-market.532973/

 

[zie2695]

Need more info as many are unfamiliar with this method. We endured the same with Triton and then balling method. Too many methods. . . LOL

All the info is available here http://dsrreefing.com/

 

[zie2695]

If I had my way the products would already be used in my household and I would be running a full DSR reef just so I could throw it in everybody's face that I was on to something long before anyone was willing to make the effort to bring this absolutely amazing method to the states.
The problem I have is that I can't figure out anybody to import the products to me, I've been referred to seaflower and I have conversed with them to only be forgotten about. I was literally inches away from making a deal with them to import the products to me in they simply stopped responding so I have made my efforts.
Believe me as soon as the products are available in the United States I will be the 1st one making a purchase and if Glenn Fong would be willing to set me up I am more than willing to build the 1st DSR display tank in the United States for references. I have personally been back-and-forth with Glenn for the past 3 years but simply in unable to bring the products in to the United States from abroad.

 

[Yoni]

Hoi ,
From belgium , second tank running on dsr . 3j now .
Using 7j DSR

 

[homer1475]

From what I read, it's pretty much the same as the triton method, with the exception of no ICP testing. The only odd thing I saw is you mix your own NSW with certain parameters in mind(including minor and major trace elements).

Seems like more testing that we all hate to do in the first place. Ever wonder why everyone's waiting on the trident, and all the others that are similar are selling so well?

 

[Yoni]

From what I read, it's pretty much the same as the triton method, with the exception of no ICP testing. The only odd thing I saw is you mix your own NSW with certain parameters in mind(including minor and major trace elements).

Seems like more testing that we all hate to do in the first place. Ever wonder why everyone's waiting on the trident, and all the others that are similar are selling so well?

The testing time go just fine (i hate it to )