wrasse compatibility (flasher.faeries)

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Love this thread, I also have been turned on to F&F. Currently I have a blue-sided, and a large Male Africian Exquisite. I just picked up a Lg Pink Margin today and can't wait to put him into the dt, after a few weeks in qt.
 

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I have 1 Filamented Flasher Male, 1 Multicolor Lubbocks, 1 Dot n Dash Flasher male, 1 Yellow Coris and 1 Female Red fairy. Never any real aggression between them. Great fish. I love my F&F's:)
 

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I was wondering the same thing (about wrasse compatibility). Could you please give a link to "Brad's list?"
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Alright, here we go.


Paracanthurus hepatus (Regal Tang)
Zebrasoma xanthurus (Purple Tang)
Siganus doliatus (Dolitatus Rabbitfish)
Genicanthus bellus (Bellus Angelfish)
Genicanthus watanabei (Watanabei Angelfish)
Pygoplites diacanthus (Regal Angelfish)
Genicanthus melanospilos (Japanese Swallowtail Angelfish)
Centropyge joculator (Joculator Angelfish) - Pair
Anampses meleagrides (Yellowtail Tamarin Wrasse)
Macropharyngodon geoffroy (Potters Leopard Wrasse)
Halichoeres chrysus (Yellow Coris Wrasse)
Labroides dimidiatus (Cleaner Wrasse)
Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis (Rhomboid Fairy Wrasse) - Trio
Cirrhilabrus sp.1 (Nahacky's Wrasse/Tongan Flame Fairy Wrasse)
Cirrhilabrus lineatus (Lineatus Fairy Wrasse)
Cirrhilabrus rubrimarginatus (Pink Marginatus Fairy Wrasse)
Cirrhilabrus roseafascia (Rose-band Fairy Wrasse)
Cirrhilabrus pylei (Cebu Black spot Pyle's Fairy Wrasse) 2
Cirrhilabrus laboutei (Labouti Fiary Wrasse) - Pair
Cirrhilabrus lyukyuensis (Yellow Flanked Fairy Wrasse)
Cirrhilabrus Balteatus (Girdled fairy)
Cirrhilabrus Bathyphilus (Hooded fairy)
Paracheilinus Bellae (Bell's Flasher)
Paracheilinus attenuatus (Attenuatus Flasher Wrasse)
Paracheilinus mccoskeri (McCosker's Flasher Wrasse)4
Chaetodontoplus septentrionalis (Blue line angel)
Chaetodon kleinii (Kleins butterfly)
Macropharyngodon kuiteri (Kuiter's Leopard wrasse) pair
Pseudoanthias dispar (Dispar anthias)
Pseudanthias bartlettorum (Bartlett's anthias)
(Thalassoma wrasse) Not sure of his name. LOL
 
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Thanks for putting the list up Brad! I'm glad to see you have the Genicanthus melanospilos (Japanese Swallowtail Angelfish)on there. I have my heart set on a pair of Genicanthus watanabei.


 
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I also have a question about the acclimation container everyone uses. I have plenty of weldon 4 and 16 so I was going to try and make my own. how big do you suggest to make one?
 

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you forgot to add the new additions Brad. :wink:

I know.. After I copied and pasted the list last night, I realized that. Whats a couple more right?:snicker:

Thanks for putting the list up Brad! I'm glad to see you have the Genicanthus melanospilos (Japanese Swallowtail Angelfish)on there. I have my heart set on a pair of Genicanthus watanabei.

I love the Genicanthus fish Paul. I have watanabie, bellus and japanese swallowtail. Although it wasn't easy adding them one at a time. It would of been nice to have my acclimation box back then.



I also have a question about the acclimation container everyone uses. I have plenty of weldon 4 and 16 so I was going to try and make my own. how big do you suggest to make one?

A good size would be 6 x6 x10L Mine is 6 x 4 x 8 and would be a bit small for larger fish.
 

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I just want to put this out there ... I know many see this vast list of wrasses that Brad has and the quantity that Marvin has in his tank as well and think that "I can do that too then". Please remember that everyones tank is different and you have to make sure you have the right combo's and remove some too if you get issues. Also, YOU MUST HAVE HIDING LOCATIONS for these F&F wrasses! I've had 9 F&F in a 268G tank with an open aquascape and could not add any more because of aggression issues with the lack of hiding room. Brad has a very established tank with lots of escape area's in his rockwork and large corals. Marvin has his rockwork designed to have lots of hiding spots as well. Just something to keep in mind when planning your tanks and F&F stocking lists ;)
 
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I also have a question about the acclimation container everyone uses. I have plenty of weldon 4 and 16 so I was going to try and make my own. how big do you suggest to make one?

Mine is 12x6x6 from 4coral.com

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I just want to put this out there ... I know many see this vast list of wrasses that Brad has and the quantity that Marvin has in his tank as well and think that "I can do that too then". Please remember that everyones tank is different and you have to have to make sure you have the right combo and remove some too if you get issues. Also, YOU MUST HAVE HIDING LOCATIONS for these F&F wrasses! I've had 9 F&F in a 268G tank with an open aquascape and could not add any more because of aggression issues with the lack of hiding room. Brad has a very established tank with lots of escape area's in his rockwork and large corals. Marvin has his rockwork designed to have lots of hiding spots as well. Just something to keep in mind when planning your tanks and F&F stocking lists ;)

Sara, Thank you. You are completely right. Sometimes,, well most of the time I get carried away showing my fish, and forget that I need to remember to remind people that I have built a system from the ground up to support these creatures. Not everyone can realize the amount of equipment and money it takes to create a stable system to support an aquarium like mine. It takes tons of work, lots of live rock and constant care to hopefully maintain an environment suitable for the well being of these gorgeouse creatures.
I thank you again for bringing this up and agree with you 100 percent.
 

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I just want to put this out there ... I know many see this vast list of wrasses that Brad has and the quantity that Marvin has in his tank as well and think that "I can do that too then". Please remember that everyones tank is different and you have to have to make sure you have the right combo and remove some too if you get issues. Also, YOU MUST HAVE HIDING LOCATIONS for these F&F wrasses! I've had 9 F&F in a 268G tank with an open aquascape and could not add any more because of aggression issues with the lack of hiding room. Brad has a very established tank with lots of escape area's in his rockwork and large corals. Marvin has his rockwork designed to have lots of hiding spots as well. Just something to keep in mind when planning your tanks and F&F stocking lists ;)
Thanks Sara. I thought I had posted something about this in here but I guess I posted it in my thread. I'll find the post and post it in the original post as a warning. :)

Sara, Thank you. You are completely right. Sometimes,, well most of the time I get carried away showing my fish, and forget that I need to remember to remind people that I have built a system from the ground up to support these creatures. Not everyone can realize the amount of equipment and money it takes to create a stable system to support an aquarium like mine. It takes tons of work, lots of live rock and constant care to hopefully maintain an environment suitable for the well being of these gorgeouse creatures.
I thank you again for bringing this up and agree with you 100 percent.
yes, it does take a lot of time and dedication to do this. if your system is not built for these awesome fishes and not ready to do the work, pls don't try this at home. ;)
 

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That exactly what I'm doing with my new tank guys, is building it specifically for these fish...and others of course. I've already purchased rocks that will be strategically placed around the bottom as caves for hiding/sleeping places. I plan to make caves, hangovers and other hiding places for my fish in the new 200.

So far, the 100lbs of dry rock looks to be quite a bit, but might just get 50lbs more just to have more options and such.
 
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A good size would be 6 x6 x10L Mine is 6 x 4 x 8 and would be a bit small for larger fish.

Thanks Brad, I'll give it a shot probably next week. I got some drywall in my bathroom project to finish first.

Aquapha8, I was actually looking at that exact container. When I realized I had all the acrylic and weldon, I figured what the heck, I'll give it a shot for free.
 

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sounds awesome guys. I'm looking forward to seeing both your tanks and F&F collection. stay tuned on the other F&F topics as we learn more about these awesome specie of fishes. :)
 
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OK, here is my official/unofficial list for when the tank is up and running:

I currently have these:
Yellow Wrasse / Halichoeres chrysus
Target Mandarin(male) / Synchiropus picturatus
Starry Blenny / Salarias ramosus
spotted kole tang / Ctenochaetus truncatus

This is what I want to add:

Tangs
Chevron Tang / Ctenochaetus hawaiiensis
Convict Tang / Acanthurus triostegus*
Blue Carribean Tang / Acanthurus coeruleus
Orange Stripped Bristle Tooth / Ctenochaetus cf. striatus

Blenny/Goby
Tailspot / Ecsenius stigmatura *
Ember / Cirripectes stigmaticus

Wrasse
Pink Streaked / Pseudocheilinops ataenia
Blue Star Leopard / Macropharyngodon bipartitus (pair)
Possum / Wetmorella albofasciata
Pylei Fairy / Cirrhilabrus pylei
Exquisite Fairy / Cirrhilabrus exquisitus
Labout's Fairy / Cirrhilabrus laboutei
Red Tail Flasher/ Paracheilinus rubricaudalis( pair)
Lineatus Fairy / Cirrhilabrus lineatus
Scotts Fairy / Cirrhilabrus scottorum
Blue Flasher / Paracheilinus lineopunctatus
Rhomboid Fairy / Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis
McCosker's Flasher / Paracheilinus mccoskeri

misc
Watanabei angel / Genicanthus watanabei(pair)
Flashing Tilefish / Hoplolatilus chlupatyi
Janss' pipefish / Doryrhamphus janssi
Dragonface pipefish / Corythoichthys sp.
skunk tile fish / Hoplolatius marcosi) (pair)


Also do you think a flame hawk would be an issue? I have no shrimp and don't want any.
 

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I thought possum and scott's wrasses are downright nasty....I'd like a possum myself but my tank is very peaceful since my labouti and rhomboid made peace and don't want to screw the balance up.
 

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OK, here is my official/unofficial list for when the tank is up and running:

I currently have these:
Yellow Wrasse / Halichoeres chrysus
Target Mandarin(male) / Synchiropus picturatus
Starry Blenny / Salarias ramosus
spotted kole tang / Ctenochaetus truncatus

This is what I want to add:

Tangs
Chevron Tang / Ctenochaetus hawaiiensis
Convict Tang / Acanthurus triostegus*
Blue Carribean Tang / Acanthurus coeruleus
Orange Stripped Bristle Tooth / Ctenochaetus cf. striatus

Blenny/Goby
Tailspot / Ecsenius stigmatura *
Ember / Cirripectes stigmaticus

Wrasse
Pink Streaked / Pseudocheilinops ataenia
Blue Star Leopard / Macropharyngodon bipartitus (pair)
Possum / Wetmorella albofasciata
Pylei Fairy / Cirrhilabrus pylei
Exquisite Fairy / Cirrhilabrus exquisitus
Labout's Fairy / Cirrhilabrus laboutei
Red Tail Flasher/ Paracheilinus rubricaudalis( pair)
Lineatus Fairy / Cirrhilabrus lineatus
Scotts Fairy / Cirrhilabrus scottorum
Blue Flasher / Paracheilinus lineopunctatus
Rhomboid Fairy / Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis
McCosker's Flasher / Paracheilinus mccoskeri

misc
Watanabei angel / Genicanthus watanabei(pair)
Flashing Tilefish / Hoplolatilus chlupatyi
Janss' pipefish / Doryrhamphus janssi
Dragonface pipefish / Corythoichthys sp.
skunk tile fish / Hoplolatius marcosi) (pair)


Also do you think a flame hawk would be an issue? I have no shrimp and don't want any.

Great list man, some of my favorites in there for sure. Tailspot Blenny, Red Tail Flasher, Convict Tang, Labouti are all awesome fish. I've had a Tailspot Blenny since one of my first tanks, they are great little fish.
 

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Wrasse
Pylei Fairy / Cirrhilabrus pylei
Exquisite Fairy / Cirrhilabrus exquisitus
Labout's Fairy / Cirrhilabrus laboutei
Red Tail Flasher/ Paracheilinus rubricaudalis( pair)
Lineatus Fairy / Cirrhilabrus lineatus
Scotts Fairy / Cirrhilabrus scottorum
Blue Flasher / Paracheilinus lineopunctatus
Rhomboid Fairy / Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis
McCosker's Flasher / Paracheilinus mccoskeri
I would forgo the Scott's fairy. they get too big and mean. and for the Pylei, I would recommend the Cebu variety. for me, they look more colorful. for the Exquisite, try to find some females so you'll have a better chance of keeping the vibrant colors. they tend to lose a lot of colors over time. everything else looks good to me. I would add the flashers first, then the fairies. good luck and have fun. :)
 

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