Zeovit discussion thread!

Discussion in 'Reef Aquarium Discussion' started by hybridazn, May 9, 2017.

  1. zsuzsu

    zsuzsu Well-Known Member

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    oseymour, hows your red sea reefer 350, anything you didn't like about it? asking 'cause i'm thinking about getting the 425 xl, thanx in advance,... zsu
     

  2. ReefingwithO

    ReefingwithO Well-Known Member Build Thread Contributor

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    I like the Red Sea tank.

    I wish it had a Refugium area which is something they fixed in the Peninsula series.

    There are users who modify them and companies that make baffles and any type of mod you want.

    If I had one complaint I would say that the center overflow is a little large but I can make due with it. I can place the tank closer to the wall and in an apartment space is everything.
     
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    thanx mr
     
  4. 1stNoel

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    I tried to switch my tank from Red Sea to Zeovit, with catastrophic results. To be fair, I think I botched the switch so I'm not blaming them. I just didn't realize how good I had it with Red Sea until I switched.

    That being said, since I'm a glutton for punishment and had already bought their products, I started a separate tank from scratch to give Zeovit a fair try.

    Now I can do a head-2-head comparison of the two systems.
     
  5. cwk84

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    The thing is though, many people who keep low nitrates and feed their corals get better coloration/growth than people with high nutrient tanks (I'm talking SPS). Why is that? When our testkits show 0, as you mentioned, it's not actually 0. I'd consider this to be a ULNS where No3 is close to zero, meaning 0.5-1ppm. The reason why people have more success with higher nitrates is not that ULNS don't work it's because people are notoriously lazy. Who wants to spot feed all their corals every day to simulate those nutrient-rich gyres?.

    I've had high nitrates for months and it stunted growth. I managed to get it down to 10ppm and everything is doing better. I don't have any SPS though. I noticed that every time I feed my corals they perk up but I can't keep feeding them otherwise my nitrates will rise again. This is the exact problem and why you should have a ULNS in the first place. It doesn't make any sense to me to dose Kno3 because you cannot get the same coloration and growth as when dosing certain coral foods. I'd rather dose a crap load of coral foods to simulate those nutrient rich gyres than dose Kno3.
     
  6. jbow50

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    I am by no means an expert. In fact I'm a novice. I have a 125 that's been set up for 6 months now but previously to that I had a 75 set up for about 9 months. The only reason I wanted to go bigger was for tangs. Anyway, I had a slight algae issue, nothing too bad. But, with my new system I started with zeovit and things have been great. Maybe too good because my tank was fishless for almost 3 months and the nutrients we're really low and corals were turning pale and not growing much. My tank is a mixed reef with acros, various sps, lps and softies. Since the addition of my fish things have taken off. Colors have been brighter than I could have imagined, even with sb reef lights. The acros look dazzling and have the pastel look.
    My total system volume is 150gal. I run 6 drops of sponge power and 1mL of zeostart daily. Then I do 0.5mL of selcon and a pinch of reef roids every other day. Lastly I do 6 drops each of zeobak and zeofood every 3 days. Plus I dose red sea color program 1mL every other day for A,B,C, and D. Acropower is dosed twice daily 2mL each time for a total of 4mLs. Plus brs 2 part 15mL of alk and 10mL of cal. I do that because my alk is consumed faster than the cal. I'd be interested to hear if that's common.
     
  7. jbow50

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    Oh my params are as follows:
    Alk:8.2 red sea
    Cal:460 red sea
    Mag:1360 red sea
    Nitrates:2.5 salifert
    K:360 salifert
    Iodine: low even with red sea dosage. I don't want to fiddle too much with it. Just test occasionally since everything appears fine. Salifert
    I don't test phosphate/ ammonia/ nitrite/ iron
    I can't remember, be nice, when I last did a water change, maybe 2 months ago. Excuses: I'm busy. I'm poor. Water takes awhile to make. I need the water I do make for topping off frag and dt.
     
  8. jbow50

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    I forgot one more thing I use 1 L of zeolite as opposed to 1.5 against the recommended but I guess that leaves me with leeway if I stock more livestock :)
     
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    Did you feed your corals excessively during the period with no fish in the tank?
     
  10. jbow50

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    I would broadcast feed with a pinch of reef roids everyday. Not sure if excessive but definitely less than now.
     
  11. cwk84

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    Probably not enough to constitute a real bio load for the bacteria. As someone else said fish produce waste even if you have zero nitrates you actually have a little bit. I don’t know but I feel tempted to try this system myself. I keep talking about it and ranting about how it’s snake oil but I haven’t even tested it myself. I could start my Nano with the zeovit system.
     
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    Wait, why did you feed reed roidz? The Zeovit system provides several bottles you have to use. You're not supposed to use any other coral food. You dose bacteria, food for bacteria which is also coral food and when you shake off the Zeolites the mulm that comes off is food for the corals as well. Then you have supplements like amino acids and certain trace elements like Iron etc. you can dose for coloration. Maybe that is why your corals paled. I've checked the Zeovit forum and there are several pictures of people who started fishless and their tanks look stunningly colorful.
     
  13. jbow50

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    Oh, I think you misunderstood. My tank is thriving now. All the colors are coming out more and more everyday. Just in the beginning the colors paled out I'm assuming from basically 0 nutrients. I know the nutrients are added from food but I have a very large skimmer rated for 220 gallons and I run a refugium which I know is not recommended either. I guess I don't run a perfect zeo system but it's going well besides a little cyano right now.
     
  14. cwk84

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    I understood perfectly. Zeovit is based on a strong bacteria population that you keep feeding. The bacteria will process fish waste or any decaying matter you put in the tank and the waste product of this process is food for the corals. This is what the Zeovit system is based on. If you don't have bioload in your tank and keep feeding the bacteria with a carbon source + use a huge skimmer and refugium, OF COURSE, your corals will STARVE. Zeovit does not recommend a refugium for a reason! That said, if you don't have any fish in your tank you don't even need to run your skimmer. If you had turned off your skimmer, plus removed the cheato plus fed the tank EXCESSIVELY with the food the Zeovit system provides, you would have 'simulated' the bioload the fish now added to the system.
     
  15. jbow50

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    I gotcha. Yeah everything is going smoothly now though so I'm excited to see how the tank looks a year from now.
     
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