kacrocorals581
Gotta have that acro
look at the link I posted I few up he did diy from the get go with progression shots best representation of led growing corals great I've ever came across
LEDs and Acropora...Please shed some light on this topic (urrghhhh...)
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kchapmanjr
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Brad's tank is definitely awesome, but, unless I missed it somewhere, he uses a 72" Maristar fixture. Did he switch somewhere along the way?
kchapmanjr
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I like seeing our locals on the national threads... Makes me feel like I'm at home
I saw Powder was browsing too.
ritter6788
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My tank links are in my sig. All LEDs since April 2011. Any problems with my tank have been my fault with water quality or pests. Lighting has never been an issue. There has never been a question of LEDs growing sps (not recently anyway). Colors you get out of your Acros will vary from MH to T5 to LED and even from MH to MH or T5 to T5 depending on bulb spectrum/intensity/combo. An Acro that looks spectacular under blue LEDs can look plain under MH or T5 and vice versa.
When I started this hobby LEDs weren't even used over tanks and there were as many threads on forums about people not being able to grow and color SPS. People have been looking for the magical growth/color lighting setup for a long time, long before LEDs were around.
When I started this hobby LEDs weren't even used over tanks and there were as many threads on forums about people not being able to grow and color SPS. People have been looking for the magical growth/color lighting setup for a long time, long before LEDs were around.
ReefCave
Bradd
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2015/2/aquarium
It appears that is the case. He may have switched it up. I know reef brite has for a long time been part of Brads lighting the Maristar may be new? Maybe he'll chime in? Regardless it's always had the halide element.
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Fishinwall
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@Squamosa
Thanks for sharing your graphs. I'm amazed that your whites are that high, but apparently that's where they need to be. Do you have a tank thread?
What steps did you take to get your lights to the setting of where they are today?
I'm assuming you didn't just set them at that and just let them run.
Thanks for sharing your graphs. I'm amazed that your whites are that high, but apparently that's where they need to be. Do you have a tank thread?
What steps did you take to get your lights to the setting of where they are today?
I'm assuming you didn't just set them at that and just let them run.
jasonandsarah
Sticks, sticks and more STICKS
I shared a couple pics of pretty good growth under led and my tank has been completely Led for 2+ years . It a 75g Sps dominant tank.
I have other pics, it's not just the one acro that grows! [emoji6]
ReefCave
Bradd
It appears the Radions are working well! I have been hearing more and more success especially with the gen 3 pro ( why I'm finally taking the plunge) do you have a graph you mind sharing? That is respectable growth since radion switch.
Brad Syphus
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Thanks Brad for the compliments. I've always had my Maristar light fixture that runs 3 , 250de halides (Phoenix bulbs) and 4, 39w T-5's ATI Blue Plus bulbs, and three years ago added 2, 72" XHO Reefbrite LED strips to add the pop to the tank and coral. Big believer in Halides and wont ever change. But I believe the more diverse your lightinng is, the better.
My grandson just to give you the scale of the tank.
My grandson just to give you the scale of the tank.
Vaughn17
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It's the semi-UV channel on the Radion Pro that makes corals grow and colors pop!!! Turn the red and green way down and use the white as needed. Wish the Radion had warmer whites. Switching to the 120 lenses made my corals happier, too.
jasonandsarah
Sticks, sticks and more STICKS
I'm not exactly sure how to share my graph? I mainly use the reef link now on android and for some reason I don't get the color spectrum graph when I turn my phone sideways?
Last time I shared my full schedule with someone I had to take screen shots of every time my lights ramped up or down.
ReefCave
Bradd
Try
log into eco smart if you use that
jasonandsarah
Sticks, sticks and more STICKS
Do you want the graph or the PDF form? Logging onto ecosmart now
ReefCave
Bradd
Thats cool thanks. Something similar to what squamosa provided earlier. Screen shot of schedule and intensities. If you do have a PAR meter it would be interesting to see what the Acros that are receiving the best growth location and what those PAR readings are at peak intensity.
jasonandsarah
Sticks, sticks and more STICKS
I have it clicked on what the schedule is at peak of the day. Besides between 12:30-5:30 I have my green set to 0
ReefCave
Bradd
Awesome! This is what is nice about using a programmable platform with individual channels and them having the ability to be tracked and programmed. It achieves a much clearer picture of how results are obtained with far less guessing or assuming. Much easier to duplicate for those that want it to work based on results instead of trying to "figure it out" . Also when it comes to shallow water Acropora, one cannot argue the fact that red and UV are present in the natural color spectrum the shallow corals are receiving. If you have studied or visited a indo pacific reef you'll also know that some of these SPS are exposed to 100% pure light at low tides. (no water to filter the spectrum. Only their slime coat) there are however many SPS often the same species that thrive which are found in much deeper water, where Red and UV are minimal if at all. A good question may be what their growth and color differences are for the same Species at different depths.I have it clicked on what the schedule is at peak of the day. Besides between 12:30-5:30 I have my green set to 0
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Since getting back into the hobby around 3 years ago I have used LEDs for most of my tanks and have not had issues with them at all. I retrofitted a biocube with panorama pro LEDs and it grew acros and SPS plenty well, especially for that little tank. For fun I swapped those with a Steve's LED extreme kit - it was a bit more touchy since there were so many high power LEDs, but no real issues. At one point I dropped the photo-period down because they were growing too fast in that small space and were a pain to frag. I used reefbreeders over my 65g and they performed well - good enough for me to win the acro growout contest in my signature and there were not any lighting restrictions in that contest. I now am running AI lights and am happy with them. Overall LEDs in general have been easy to get good results for me. I do borrow my clubs PAR meter for placement, but aside from that they have been pretty much plug and play with all those LED types which range from cheap Chinese to odd spectrum to high end DIY to high end commercial and some used cool whites, others warm whites. They all did great, but on all of them I had violet spectrum or near UV.
One area that I have not tired is moving large colonies from other lighting types, all these systems were growing frags to colonies, so I can't comment on that. Here is the growout contest photo with an updates. I think the contest was over 4 months, the next photo is 2 months after that and the final photo is just now so another 2 months. Excuse the last photo, it was just quick and since the acro is near the surface I can't get good pics anymore:
One area that I have not tired is moving large colonies from other lighting types, all these systems were growing frags to colonies, so I can't comment on that. Here is the growout contest photo with an updates. I think the contest was over 4 months, the next photo is 2 months after that and the final photo is just now so another 2 months. Excuse the last photo, it was just quick and since the acro is near the surface I can't get good pics anymore:
ReefCave
Bradd
@hart24601 That is also some really nice growth. Was this growth all obtained with the Hydra at what PAR? Are your settings close to that of the RadionG3 above? Assuming water chemistry was consistent with each light swap, which light would you say achieved the best results based on the LED fixtures you have experimented with?
The 1st pic before/after was under reefbreeders value LEDs, the 2nd two are from AI hydra 26s.
The best results are honestly just when I target feed the acro more when it comes to growth. Other than that I have not noticed much difference. I will say that the hydras have brought out reds much better, or at least reds look better under them. Plus the AIs are much more powerful so I can get the PAR I target (this guy is in 600PAR, my other acros around 300-400) so overall I have enjoyed the AI lights the best, but I liked all the lights I listed.
The best results are honestly just when I target feed the acro more when it comes to growth. Other than that I have not noticed much difference. I will say that the hydras have brought out reds much better, or at least reds look better under them. Plus the AIs are much more powerful so I can get the PAR I target (this guy is in 600PAR, my other acros around 300-400) so overall I have enjoyed the AI lights the best, but I liked all the lights I listed.
ReefCave
Bradd
Light is only one of many ingredients for acro
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