Just want to say I am very happy with what this thread has turned into and I’m glad to see good questions, good advice, and the community working together to help each other!
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Starting to sound more and more like my fuge, except I use. Vodka to handle what it can't(because I don't want to harvest). If you wanted you can tune your ats to maintain a certain amount of algea rather than pruning it... seems like the same thing except I have a extra lever to manipulateYes if I had a planned event like that I could proactively add on 30 min to the timer let’s say but I have no idea how much time would be needed. I would still monitor tank conditions and go from there
I will be honest - my scrubber does wonders for my tank but I still get bubble algae here and there and manually remove. Now, could I go more aggressive with my scrubber and run it longer and beat the bubble algae also - possibly, but things are going well for me and I don’t want to mess with it and risk stripping too much from the water. I already run on what I feel is the low side for nitrates and phosphates and I don’t think the “potential” benefits are worth taking a risk
If my tank didn’t have a scrubber and was overrun with bubble algae, and I was adding a scrubber, that would be a different story. But I still would manually remove as much as possible first and go from there
Starting to sound more and more like my fuge, except I use. Vodka to handle what it can't(because I don't want to harvest). If you wanted you can tune your ats to maintain a certain amount of algea rather than pruning it... seems like the same thing except I have a extra lever to manipulate
I decided to turn it back on to see what affect it would have on nitrate and phosphate, not for any type of algae control in the display. Why I'm considering turning it back off:
- The nutrients that its removing, is that going to negatively affect the availability of nutrients needed for the display biome?
- If it performs as advertised, will there now not be enough algae in the display for the algae grazers?
- I have an AIO with my own homemade ATS (design changed a little along the way, including the light spectrum). It's a bit of pain to clean and algae ends up loose in the chamber. It would be a lot easier if I just did some form of carbon dosing instead. Which would also benefit bacteria.
- I'm not really sure if I saw any net positive benefit from running it. It just created more tank maintenance. Not sure what I was expecting different this time.
Yes, it has me considering turning it back off. My corals have never been smothered by hair algae, scrubber running or not. Why would turning the scrubber off cause that to happen?
I put fish food, and coral food in the tank to maintain those parameters. Empty the skimmer when it's full, and scrape the glass. Maybe a water change every couple of weeks.I spend zero time growing algae. It just grows by itself in my scrubber. Once every 2 weeks I spend 30 seconds to grab a handful of algae and throw it away.
What do you do to maintain those numbers? I bet it’s more time than I spend on my tank
I decided to turn it back on to see what affect it would have on nitrate and phosphate, not for any type of algae control in the display. Why I'm considering turning it back off:
- The nutrients that its removing, is that going to negatively affect the availability of nutrients needed for the display biome?
No. I have been running scrubbers for 10 years. I’ve never had any negative effect. You adjust the hours based on your nutrient levels. I keep my tank at .02-.05 phosphate and 2-5 nitrate. I could increase or decrease these numbers based on the number of hours the scrubber leds are on
- If it performs as advertised, will there now not be enough algae in the display for the algae grazers?
Possibly, but you can reduce the leds to maintain the balance you need and allow some algae to grow
- I have an AIO with my own homemade ATS (design changed a little along the way, including the light spectrum). It's a bit of pain to clean and algae ends up loose in the chamber. It would be a lot easier if I just did some form of carbon dosing instead. Which would also benefit bacteria.
Carbon dosing does benefit bacteria. Scrubbers remove only bad things (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, copper and phosphate) but leave all the good things (visible food particles, invisible coral nutrition, copepods, microbes, and egg spawnings) in the water. And scrubbers do this continuously (once growing), instead of only at one moment. Also, scrubbers actually add some more good things to the water, like copepods, amino acids, and oxygen.
- I'm not really sure if I saw any net positive benefit from running it. It just created more tank maintenance. Not sure what I was expecting different this time.
I guess that’s from your design, mine reduces maintenance because I don’t have any manual work and don’t perform water changes and don’t run my skimmer
Yes, it has me considering turning it back off. My corals have never been smothered by hair algae, scrubber running or not. Why would turning the scrubber off cause that to happen?
The use of algae scrubbers and refugiums is nearly essential in any reef tank. I would never run a tank without one. Absolute game changer.
Sump: looks like a swap
DT: Immaculate
That's what you learned from all this? Try to deceive people in order to back up your point? SmhI'm glad I started this thread. It has definitely been heated at times, and I apologize to anyone that I may have ticked off.
I have definitely learned alot, especially DON'T EVER post 100%white/0% blue light pics for all the world to see how ugly your tank really is!! LOL.
I remained 100% convinced that my ATS works. While my undersized one may not be as effective as other methods to truly eradicate all display algae, I think it is safer than some methods, like nopox, vodka,
or Vibrant (Had another tank with crazy algae in it. Dosed Vibrant, prior to the findings that it was just a rebranded algaecide. Next day 4 out of the 6 fish were dead. Including some of my very first fish since I had the tank for over 2 years.
I posted a poll on the forum. Please vote!!
Thanks!!
I HOPE you're kidding, because I was. Hence the LOL. I learned alot more than that!!That's what you learned from all this? Try to deceive people in order to back up your point? Smh
That's what you learned from all this? Try to deceive people in order to back up your point? Smh
Ok.. fair enough!! I thought you were seriousI HOPE you're kidding, because I was. Hence the LOL. I learned alot more than that!!
Yup and yup..I think he’s just poking fun at himself
And to be fair, his tanks hair algae drastically was reduced, probably by 90% when no other methods helped, with a diy homemade scrubber he figured out how to build on his own with about 80$ in parts
Not at all. I have no problems making fun of myself when it calls for it!!!Ok.. fair enough!! I thought you were serious
Well, to be fair, the other chap has been jazzing it up a bit also;Not at all. I have no problems making fun of myself when it calls for it!!!
The other chap was jazzing it up because the ATS works. Just because my tank may still have algae, I do not have the algae problems that I had before using it.Well, to be fair, the other chap has been jazzing it up a bit also;