Ammonia Control in QT

[Nem0]

I had put my clown in an emergency QT. Water not cycled or anything. Don't have filter media to put into the QT. I do have a bottle of IO Biospira and I've been putting that into the QT. I'm dosing prime as well and will be doing water changes daily. I read @Brew12 's article about ammonia control but have some additional questions/concerns.

I'm medicating with Furan-2, I think my clown has some type of bacterial gill disease. He is breathing heavily and sitting/lying at the bottom of the tank. Skin and color look of the fish look fine. On the back, it says "antibiotic medication may inhibit the biological filter"...this means that the furan-2 likely negates the biospira right? How do i make sure my clown doesn't die/get worse from him being in the QT (from high ammonia levels)?

This is my first-time emergency QT, any and all tips are appreciated. Let's hope my clownfish survives!!

 

[reef lover]

As long as your binding the ammonia with prime and doing water changes you should be fine.

 

[Gareth elliott]

+1 have any pictures of the poor guy?

 

[HotRocks]

Are you running an ammonia badge? If so what color is it?

FYI I am a huge fan of IO biospira. You do need some sort of media in your tank/hob for the bacteria to propogate upon. I use products all the time in QTs that contain nitrofurazone (Furan-2) and it has little to no impact on the biofilter. NFG is another story.

 

[Brew12]

I had put my clown in an emergency QT. Water not cycled or anything. Don't have filter media to put into the QT. I do have a bottle of IO Biospira and I've been putting that into the QT. I'm dosing prime as well and will be doing water changes daily. I read @Brew12 's article about ammonia control but have some additional questions/concerns.

I'm medicating with Furan-2, I think my clown has some type of bacterial gill disease. He is breathing heavily and sitting/lying at the bottom of the tank. Skin and color look of the fish look fine. On the back, it says "antibiotic medication may inhibit the biological filter"...this means that the furan-2 likely negates the biospira right? How do i make sure my clown doesn't die/get worse from him being in the QT (from high ammonia levels)?

This is my first-time emergency QT, any and all tips are appreciated. Let's hope my clownfish survives!!

The Seachem ammonia alert badge is a great tool to have.

You do need some sort of media in your tank/hob for the bacteria to propogate upon.

+1 on this. You need something like a sponge with water flow through it for the nitrifying bacteria to grow on.

Have you done a FW dip to check for flukes?

 

[Nem0]

The Seachem ammonia alert badge is a great tool to have.

+1 on this. You need something like a sponge with water flow through it for the nitrifying bacteria to grow on.

Have you done a FW dip to check for flukes?

Yes, I did a FW dip last night for flukes. nothing came out. i checked on him as soon as i woke up this morning and he looks way worse than last night. not moving from his side and very pale. i think hes definitely on his way out

+1 have any pictures of the poor guy?

the last picture is his normal color

 

[Gareth elliott]

Looks like he is having a hard time breathing.
Perhaps a 30 min methylene blue bath?

Will help with hemoglobin production and has antiseptic properties and is rather mild on an already stressed fish.

Agree it doesnt look good. I have had fish return to full health when ive done dumb things that stress them out and started breathing heavily on the tank floor, but not when its an infection.

 

[Nem0]

Looks like he is having a hard time breathing.
Perhaps a 30 min methylene blue bath?

Will help with hemoglobin production and has antiseptic properties and is rather mild on an already stressed fish.

Agree it doesnt look good. I have had fish return to full health when ive done dumb things that stress them out and started breathing heavily on the tank floor, but not when its an infection.

I don't have any of that stuff on hand and my LFS doesn't either. i checked last night. not sure what there is for me to do besides wait now

 

[Gareth elliott]

Could try walmart, sometimes they keep basic fish treatments on hand. Also the big box pet stores if near petco, pet supplies plus, pet smart. Sure if you called someone would be able to check the shelfs for you :)

 

[Nem0]

Could try walmart, sometimes they keep basic fish treatments on hand. Also the big box pet stores if near petco, pet supplies plus, pet smart. Sure if you called someone would be able to check the shelfs for you :)

i went to all 3 (walmart, pet supply, petco) last night to find some stuff. very limited :/ but those are the only stores near me

 

[Gareth elliott]

i went to all 3 (walmart, pet supply, petco) last night to find some stuff. very limited :/ but those are the only stores near me

:(

Try to minimize stress, no lights, if worried about ammonia maybe a water change.

 

[Nem0]

yessir, hoping for the best mate !!

 

[Big G]

Perhaps a 30 min methylene blue bath

+1 on this ^^^ MB will help the fish's gills to transpire oxygen.

 

[Big G]

Lights off only ambient room lighting. Lower the temp just slightly. Lower the salinity just slightly. Increase O2 with additional bubbler or powerhead aimed up at the surface so it's actively rippling the water surface.

 

[Nem0]

Lights off only ambient room lighting. Lower the temp just slightly. Lower the salinity just slightly. Increase O2 with additional bubbler or powerhead aimed up at the surface so it's actively rippling the water surface.

all done. hes still alive but pretty much the same condition as this morning. lying completely on his side and the only movement is gills

 

[Brew12]

all done. hes still alive but pretty much the same condition as this morning. lying completely on his side and the only movement is gills

Good job. I know it's tough but some times all you can do is your best and then wait. You've done more than many people would and I commend you for it. Hopefully the little guy recovers!

 

[Nem0]

i'll keep y'all updated!

 

[Nem0]

Well, after a long battle good ole nemo kicked the bucket. thank you all for the emergency help, it means a lot!

 

[Big G]

Oh, man. Sorry for your loss. Sometimes we get fish that have suffered incredible internal injuries or that are harboring disease that we cannot see until it's too late. You did a great job trying to help the little guy.

 

[RazorD]

Sorry to hear