Anemone BTA keep floating at night

[new-judge]

Hi everyone, my BTA keep floating at night and detaching itself. Our lights are completely off during the night and work from 12:00 - 12:00. I have it for 4 days now and already twice it ended up in the wave maker. What can I do to fix that issue, I’ve read to either use basket, maybe change wave power during the night or keep the lights on Moonlight mode entire time until cycle starts. Any tips appreciated, thank you!

 

[KrisReef]

It’s looking for better water and a better attachment place.

Post your water parameters or do a large water change and see if it stops trying to relocate.

 

[new-judge]

It’s looking for better water and a better attachment place.

Post your water parameters or do a large water change and see if it stops trying to relocate.

Mg is actually 1400 and Ca is 460

 

[Uncle99]

Assuming he’s reattached without your help, He’s still wandering to find a spot because he attaches himself…..unless he’s constantly floating and that’s an issue.

Changes just make this process longer.

Protect him from the wavemaker for a few days.

Let’s see if he can settle himself.

Alk a bit low for me, MG low for me.

 

[new-judge]

It’s looking for better water and a better attachment place.

Post your water parameters or do a large water change and see if it stops trying to relocate.

Mg is actually 1400 and Ca is 460

And tank is 326l

 

[new-judge]

He’s still wandering to find a spot because he attaches himself on the glass.

Changes just make this process longer.

Protect him from the wavemaker for a few days.

Let’s see if he can settle himself.

How do you recommend to protect him from wavemakers, I have guards on them but he’s still getting partly in

 

[KrisReef]

And tank is 326l

The parameters are a bit skewed compared to NSW, so it may be looking for a more ocean-like environment.

Otherwise, It might want more light and flow currents that bring it food.

Stick it high up on the rockwork, let it attach and then lightly target feed it, preferrably on the drift like natural food arrives and not a shrimp on a stick into the oral cavity kind of feeding. This can encourage them that the location is good, the currents are good, and the light is good.

Is the light good?

They also prefer a crevace where they can hide their food, attach well, and slide into a hole away from predators, and big surf and low tide exposure (if they were in the wild, what they do.)

 

[new-judge]

Assuming he’s reattached without your help, He’s still wandering to find a spot because he attaches himself…..unless he’s constantly floating and that’s an issue.

Changes just make this process longer.

Protect him from the wavemaker for a few days.

Let’s see if he can settle himself.

Alk a bit low for me, MG low for me.

I’m already working on putting alk and mg up, alk should be actually fixed today and one more dose of mg should make it good too. Nice BTA you got yourself there by the way!

 

[56longroof]

Shut your powerheads off for 24-48 hours. That's what worked for me after losing one.

 

[KrisReef]

I’m already working on putting alk and mg up, alk should be actually fixed today and one more dose of mg should make it good too. Nice BTA you got yourself there by the way!

Get where you want the numbers and then quit bouncing them about. These changes dont promote nem's to settle down.

I have observed that with lets say 'Low" water quality (FOWLR Tank) changing the water, or even topping off evaporation with RODI can promote bubble tips to get active and move, as well as split, depending on water at start vsssss new water parameters. These things take cues from the environment to settle, to multiply, and to let go and float out of a situation.

Stability is better than perfect numbers, imo.

 

[new-judge]

I’m already working on putting alk and mg up, alk should be actually fixed today and one more dose of mg should make it good too. Nice BTA you got yourself there by the way!

Get where you want the numbers and then quit bouncing them about. These changes dont promote nem's to settle down.

I have observed that with lets say 'Low" water quality (FOWLR Tank) changing the water, or even topping off evaporation with RODI can promote bubble tips to get active and move, as well as split, depending on water at start vsssss new water parameters. These things take cues from the environment to settle, to multiply, and to let go and float out of a situation.

Stability is better than perfect numbers, imo.

Yeah once I get where I need with the numbers I definitely want to keep it stable and on same levels. At the moment I’m topping it up with Salt water as I need it to rise a bit more - 0.23 at the moment. Any suggestions how to rise it quicker? I don’t want to go too crazy to not shock my live stock that’s why I decided to just top it for now slowly

 

[KrisReef]

Yeah once I get where I need with the numbers I definitely want to keep it stable and on same levels. At the moment I’m topping it up with Salt water as I need it to rise a bit more - 0.23 at the moment. Any suggestions how to rise it quicker? I don’t want to go too crazy to not shock my live stock that’s why I decided to just top it for now slowly

Why raise it any faster then with weekly (or daily) normal water adjustments? It's not critically low.

But, to answer your question. I recall a wholesaler that bagged fish all day from their systems, lowering the salinity as the top off water replaced 'evaporation.' At the end of the day, the water manager would dump bags of instant ocean into the sump (on top of a shallow reef sandbed) so that there were mountains of salt sticking out of the water at first. The slow movement of water in those sumps would dissolve the salt and raise the salinity over night. I wish I had a picture.

 

[new-judge]

Yeah once I get where I need with the numbers I definitely want to keep it stable and on same levels. At the moment I’m topping it up with Salt water as I need it to rise a bit more - 0.23 at the moment. Any suggestions how to rise it quicker? I don’t want to go too crazy to not shock my live stock that’s why I decided to just top it for now slowly

Why raise it any faster then with weekly (or daily) normal water adjustments? It's not critically low.

But, to answer your question. I recall a wholesaler that bagged fish all day from their systems, lowering the salinity as the top off water replaced 'evaporation.' At the end of the day, the water manager would dump bags of instant ocean into the sump (on top of a shallow reef sandbed) so that there were mountains of salt sticking out of the water at first. The slow movement of water in those sumps would dissolve the salt and raise the salinity over night. I wish I had a picture.

Okay thanks so much for that! I think I’ll stick to slowly increasing salt by toppings for now, it’s working so I’ll choose patience

 

[vetteguy53081]

Assuming he’s reattached without your help, He’s still wandering to find a spot because he attaches himself…..unless he’s constantly floating and that’s an issue.

Changes just make this process longer.

Protect him from the wavemaker for a few days.

Let’s see if he can settle himself.

Alk a bit low for me, MG low for me.

Stop flow for 12-24 hours to allow it to establish its foot onto sand or a rock. Often when they are dislodged, its due to too much light or water flow and even high phosphates.
If this is a newer tank, its best to wait until 4-6 months of age as these do not do well with changing parameters as tank is maturing

 

[James M]

stoping flow for 12-48 as suggested is excessive. Healthy nems with the right environment will attach very fast to the rock work

 

[new-judge]

I’m thinking to maybe help him attach to rock and turn off the flow for 2 hours. I’ll change structure or add rock with nice spot for him to attach and see how he reacts?

 

[KrisReef]

I’m thinking to maybe help him attach to rock and turn off the flow for 2 hours. I’ll change structure or add rock with nice spot for him to attach and see how he reacts?

They like to hide their feet, out of the main current. Once it grabs and opens, drift feed.

I might try this at the beginning of daylight so that it gets lots of rays after breakfast.

 

[Uncle99]

How do you recommend to protect him from wavemakers, I have guards on them but he’s still getting partly in

Well just Turn flows off for a few hours.
It’s been 24 hours, has things changed?

 

[new-judge]

How do you recommend to protect him from wavemakers, I have guards on them but he’s still getting partly in

Well just Turn flows off for a few hours.
It’s been 24 hours, has things changed?

Well he didn’t attempt another suicidal act today in the morning so I’d say that’s a progress. He’s hidden himself in the rock I could barely find him. I have a theory that when I get to living room in the morning and turn on the light it messes him up and he tries to get to light? Their lights are shut down from 12:00 - 12:00 so me interfering at 4:30am might be an issue. Although today I did turn the light in living room and he didn’t move but it could be because he has hidden himself in the shadow. I don’t think he found his spot yet tho. Thoughts?

 

[Uncle99]

Well he didn’t attempt another suicidal act today in the morning so I’d say that’s a progress. He’s hidden himself in the rock I could barely find him. I have a theory that when I get to living room in the morning and turn on the light it messes him up and he tries to get to light? Their lights are shut down from 12:00 - 12:00 so me interfering at 4:30am might be an issue. Although today I did turn the light in living room and he didn’t move but it could be because he has hidden himself in the shadow. I don’t think he found his spot yet tho. Thoughts?

They may be upset at any light changes, but that would not show for hours.

On….then off….same everyday, every week….etc.
Chemistry the same, rock solid.

If he’s stuck he’s fine….just let him be for a bit. Let him get used to the light pattern and he will adjust his processes to that.

Light on……light off…..no changes.

You can ramp up and down if you wish but it’s not mandatory, more fun for us I guess, but same same same at all times in terms of photoperiod, spectrum and intensity.

We’re talking 5 days only.

But he must be stuck.