Artificial what....?.....

[Popeye_ali]

I use ChatGPT over Grok but they are amazing. I use it for everything technical and it works flawlessly!

 

[LovinlifeinGuam]

I use ChatGPT over Grok but they are amazing. I use it for everything technical and it works flawlessly!

Ask a specific question based on research and then look at the sources of information. It doesn't discriminate between which sources would be considered credible or not credible, which is actually a big deal.
I guess it depends on what your using it for and how important it is for it to be correct though.

 

[Nasty_Goblin]

I ask AI questions that I might think sound too stupid to ask other humans. Then I try to research to figure out where the AI came up with the answer and I will try to ask a slightly less stupid question to humans.

Take what you get from AI with a grain of salt. They will sometimes completely make things up. AI Hallucination is a real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination_(artificial_intelligence)

"Hallucinations" used to be a description of a mental condition in a human being. In my shallow, dull opinion the novel use of the term when applied to AI is simply a method of humanizing the faulty actions of the computer platform, aimed at convincing human beings to accept that "artificial intelegence" is something better than it actually is.

Garbage in, programming out.

I'm not a fan of the mess. It may have some utility but it will create more problems then it can solve, cowreckedly (sic).

Edit (SOrrry I will exit now.)

Not to be rude but it seems like you don’t really understand AI. LLM’s aren’t the only type of AI.

AI is really good at some things and mediocre at others. It’s difficult and expensive to scale human processing.

AI is fantastic at brute force.

Beyond that it’s worth while to ask AI filtering questions “How much PAR do most people keep this coral under?” Not questions like “Is this a flatworm?” or “Can I keep this fish in my aquarium?”.


We are no where near sentient AI. Mainly because we don’t really understand what makes us sentient.

 

[revhtree Verified Admin]

Cleaned this thread up. Please stay on topic and keep from getting personal. Thanks.

 

[Gumbies R Us]

Not a huge fan of ai if you ask me. While I do think it can be a helpful tool to help speed up workflow, create some goofy images to share, or get a quick summary. I think it does more harm than good. When you are asking ai a question, you are losing that personal interaction from simply just asking someone a question or doing a little bit of research yourself. Not to mention, I'm not a fan either of the way companies are slowly incorporating ai to weed out workers (not all companies, but some). I don't know, just not a fan of some virtual thing being what people go to, vs asking actual people who will give you a real answer and not some made-up answer

 

[Popeye_ali]

I use ChatGPT over Grok but they are amazing. I use it for everything technical and it works flawlessly!

Ask a specific question based on research and then look at the sources of information. It doesn't discriminate between which sources would be considered credible or not credible, which is actually a big deal.
I guess it depends on what your using it for and how important it is for it to be correct though.

Any information it gives, it gives the sources so you can delve into where it obtained for you.
The information is nearly always collected from multiple sources.

 

[LovinlifeinGuam]

Any information it gives, it gives the sources so you can delve into where it obtained for you.
The information is nearly always collected from multiple sources.

That's my point. The information is collected from many sources and a number of them are generally not credible.

 

[Scdell]

Well...... The AI they give us to use is pretty dumbed down. NASA and the military have the real deal! And Google has become what they fixed so many years ago.

 

[bikerbutter]

AI is great if you want to believe you have a source when you don't and ultimately end up experimenting, rather blindly, to figure out what works. Alternatively, I guess you could say it isn't worth much. If you want anything based on research and include "research" in the google search you should check what sources the AI generated answer refers to...they will rarely be "research" based.

Go at it as you will.

Hello, thanks for responding!!

 

[bikerbutter]

With that being said I can add my 2 cents here. I am a 15 year IT veteran who recently left the field. AI is fantastic for exactly what you are using it for, information gathering and extrapolation. It is able to very quickly build a profile of the concept you want and refine the search criteria VERY quickly. What it isnt good at, filling in the voids. AI will try is darndest to give you a full answer regardless if it has it or not.

Take what it gives you with a healthy dose of skepticism and dont make any big decisions off of it.

Hey, thanks for responding!!it has been an excellent research tool for me as well!!

 

[bikerbutter]

I use ChatGPT over Grok but they are amazing. I use it for everything technical and it works flawlessly!

Hello, thank you for your feedback!! I hadn't heard of that one. Thanks for the info. Where do i find it?

 

[bikerbutter]

Ask a specific question based on research and then look at the sources of information. It doesn't discriminate between which sources would be considered credible or not credible, which is actually a big deal.
I guess it depends on what your using it for and how important it is for it to be correct though.

Yes, i ask it to list it's sources. It will draw from anything.

 

[bikerbutter]

Cleaned this thread up. Please stay on topic and keep from getting personal. Thanks.

Absolutely!! I'm with you on that!!

 

[LovinlifeinGuam]

Ask a specific question based on research and then look at the sources of information. It doesn't discriminate between which sources would be considered credible or not credible, which is actually a big deal.
I guess it depends on what your using it for and how important it is for it to be correct though.

Yes, i ask it to list it's sources. It will draw from anything.

Do you look at the sources and actually read any of them? If you're using it as a tool for sources, that's one thing but that's not what most people do.

I highly doubt that all the sources it draws from are credible sources. That was my point.

 

[bikerbutter]

Not a huge fan of ai if you ask me. While I do think it can be a helpful tool to help speed up workflow, create some goofy images to share, or get a quick summary. I think it does more harm than good. When you are asking ai a question, you are losing that personal interaction from simply just asking someone a question or doing a little bit of research yourself. Not to mention, I'm not a fan either of the way companies are slowly incorporating ai to weed out workers (not all companies, but some). I don't know, just not a fan of some virtual thing being what people go to, vs asking actual people who will give you a real answer and not some made-up answer

Hello, thanks for your feedback!! You are spot on!! I don't care for machines taking jobs.

 

[bikerbutter]

Any information it gives, it gives the sources so you can delve into where it obtained for you.
The information is nearly always collected from multiple sources.

Absolutely!!

 

[bikerbutter]

Do you look at the sources and actually read any of them? If you're using it as a tool for sources, that's one thing but that's not what most people do.

I highly doubt that all the sources it draws from are credible sources. That was my point.

Agreed, it will draw from anything.

 

[tmcjilton]

I was just thinking about this the other day as my thoughts toward the advancement of AI are quite reserved. That being said, I have used Grok quite a few times related to reefing and it is has been great! Narrowing down information from a wide range of sources, and providing a quick summary of its findings is pretty invaluable. IMO using AI in this way is great and it can save you hours of searching. As with everything, it's only as good as the information it is "reading" from, so I always check the sources that Grok lists when responding to a query.

 

[Nasty_Goblin]

Not a huge fan of ai if you ask me. While I do think it can be a helpful tool to help speed up workflow, create some goofy images to share, or get a quick summary. I think it does more harm than good. When you are asking ai a question, you are losing that personal interaction from simply just asking someone a question or doing a little bit of research yourself. Not to mention, I'm not a fan either of the way companies are slowly incorporating ai to weed out workers (not all companies, but some). I don't know, just not a fan of some virtual thing being what people go to, vs asking actual people who will give you a real answer and not some made-up answer

I think this is an overall good take to have.

However, I do think its odd that a lot of people cite personal interaction or "made-up" answers as a reason to distrust AI.

One of the first pieces of advice I had in the hobby was "Don't take advice from everyone." Exclusively speaking to humans or using information written by humans presents the same hurdles. I've been confused by conflicting responses on this forum several times.

IMO, the largest advantage to using AI is that it doesn't have an opinion. In a lot of ways, it's simply an advanced aggregator, not unlike Wikipedia. Most of the shortcomings associated with AI seem to be critiques of human nature and not the technology itself.

Yes, people should not be unwillingly replaced with machines. But it's people who make that decision in the first place. Draftsmen can blame computers all day long, but it's firm owners who have replaced them with technology and raised the bar for entry.

Reefkeeping and aquaculture are fields that can significantly benefit from AI. I'm new, but it doesn't take a veteran to realize that this is a game of pattern recognition. Why discount a tool because people misuse it due to greed and politics? It's not really any different than cellphones, calculators, or computers.

 

[bikerbutter]

I was just thinking about this the other day as my thoughts toward the advancement of AI are quite reserved. That being said, I have used Grok quite a few times related to reefing and it is has been great! Narrowing down information from a wide range of sources, and providing a quick summary of its findings is pretty invaluable. IMO using AI in this way is great and it can save you hours of searching. As with everything, it's only as good as the information it is "reading" from, so I always check the sources that Grok lists when responding to a query.

Hello, thank you for your feedback!! Absolutely!! It has saved me SO MUCH TIME!! And I'm not good at hunting for stuff on the net. Ai has made things much easier for me. Saved major time, that was worth saying again!!