Bubble anemone inside of a large shell

[Cjeezy17]

I have velvet in my display tank I took my clownfish out and put in a small 20 gallon tank and I’m treating it with copper power how long until I can add fish back to my display tank I have a 75 gallon with icecap sump protein skimmer 2 power heads and 40 pounds of dry rock with corals

 

[Fish Fan]

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

#WelcometoR2R

Are you sure you had Velvet? Marine Velvet is actually rare, and very, very lethal often killing all fish in a very short period of time, like a day or so. The fact that your Clownfish is still alive has me questioning Velvet. Additionally, Marine Velvet doesn't give the fish that while film coating until very late in the disease. If your Clownfish had what looked like a white mucus coating, it could well have been Brooklynella, which Clownfish are particularly susceptible to, and requires a different treatment than copper (Ruby Reef Rally Pro).

But, to answer your question, this link discusses fallow periods for diseases like Ich:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/45-day-fallow-periods.805213/

The fallow period for Velvet is less well understood, but given how lethal Velvet is, I would go longer than shorter for the fallow:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/45-day-fallow-periods.805213/post-9644497

Good luck!

 

[kevgib67]

Welcome to R2R!

 

[Cjeezy17]

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

#WelcometoR2R

Are you sure you had Velvet? Marine Velvet is actually rare, and very, very lethal often killing all fish in a very short period of time, like a day or so. The fact that your Clownfish is still alive has me questioning Velvet. Additionally, Marine Velvet doesn't give the fish that while film coating until very late in the disease. If your Clownfish had what looked like a white mucus coating, it could well have been Brooklynella, which Clownfish are particularly susceptible to, and requires a different treatment than copper (Ruby Reef Rally Pro).

But, to answer your question, this link discusses fallow periods for diseases like Ich:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/45-day-fallow-periods.805213/

The fallow period for Velvet is less well understood, but given how lethal Velvet is, I would go longer than shorter for the fallow:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/45-day-fallow-periods.805213/post-9644497

Good luck!

 

[Cjeezy17]

I took some close up pictures.

 

[Fish Fan]

That looks like Brook to me. Is it swimming kind of vertically?

#fishmedic for confirmation

 

[Cjeezy17]

That looks like Brook to me. Is it swimming kind of vertically?

#fishmedic for confirmation

 

[Cjeezy17]

They seems to be swimming normal this is my hospital tank they are in

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

They seems to be swimming normal this is my hospital tank they are in

I don’t see the extreme rapid breathing that is the hallmark of velvet. I also don’t see the stilted swimming motion usually seen with brooklynella. In cases where fish have had ich for a long period, the spots start to run together and more mucus develops, starting to resemble brooklynella.

Early on, when this first started, could you see distinct salt grain like white spots?

 

[Fish Fan]

The swimming in the video doesn't seem as "off" as I was expecting, but from your pics I still think that's Brook. If it was Velvet I believe the fish would be dead by the time it developed that white film. Give it a few for the Fish Medic team to confirm, but I would suggest trying to source some Ruby Reef Rally Pro:
https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/rall...UjA3YHOWff6G6-zffF5XPq-Dv2qfqoFwxy3oPCTLy181f

 

[Cjeezy17]

They seems to be swimming normal this is my hospital tank they are in

And also let me add that whatever this is didn’t start until I added my blue hippo tang after I added the tang it whipped out 2 pj cardinals, 4 clownfish, 1 fire fish, 2 chromies, and 1 damsel I got my new tank yesterday which is a 75 and all I have now is 2 snowflake clownfish but when I added them into the new tank I could tell they have something on them

 

[Cjeezy17]

I don’t see the extreme rapid breathing that is the hallmark of velvet. I also don’t see the stilted swimming motion usually seen with brooklynella. In cases where fish have had ich for a long period, the spots start to run together and more mucus develops, starting to resemble brooklynella.

Early on, when this first started, could you see distinct salt grain like white spots?

Yes a few spots but their fins look different. It was so bad my tang was banging itself against the rocks. In my old tank.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Yes a few spots but their fins look different. It was so bad my tang was banging itself against the rocks. In my old tank.

The tang had white spots? If so, I’d say this is ich as tangs don’t often get brooklynella (I’ve never seen one get it).

 

[Cjeezy17]

The swimming in the video doesn't seem as "off" as I was expecting, but from your pics I still think that's Brook. If it was Velvet I believe the fish would be dead by the time it developed that white film. Give it a few for the Fish Medic team to confirm, but I would suggest trying to source some Ruby Reef Rally Pro:
https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/rall...UjA3YHOWff6G6-zffF5XPq-Dv2qfqoFwxy3oPCTLy181f

Ok, thanks I also have some fritz Bacter shield would that help?

 

[Fish Fan]

Ok, thanks I also have some fritz Bacter shield would that help?

I've not used that product, but maybe Jay would know more about it.

 

[Cjeezy17]

The tang had white spots? If so, I’d say this is ich as tangs don’t often get brooklynella (I’ve never seen one get it).

Yes the tang had white spots all over it and it’s the fish that got it first .

 

[winxp_man]

you have a serious case of ich. The spots are too defined. Also have seen this level of ich plenty of times on fish. All your fish will be infected sadly. So QT all in 2.25ppm copper power or copper safe for 30 days. Hanna HR copper checker for copper

Secret to ammonia in a QT a cycled PolypLab Genesis rock. You will never have ammonia issues. Only reason for a WC would be to get clean water in the tank being you don’t have much of a filter with a HOB that is mostly used in a QT system.

Fallow DT for 60 days.

Hint about velvet, by the time you see it fish is usually beyond saving if not dying. Also the look that velvet has on most fish is the glazed doughnut look. Not the salt look.


And welcome to the forum! Glad to have you here!

 

[Rocks reef]

I am inclined to say it is ich as @Jay Hemdal and @winxp_man mentioned.
@Fish Fan provided great info for the fallow period.
Do not add any more livestock of any kind. Follow the fallow protocol and you should be able to get rid of it.
Did you inspect the hippo tang at the LFS prior? They are ich magnets.
If you say you just picked up a 75, what size tank did you have them in prior? Reason I am asking is the blue tang would have needed more room than a 75. There are smaller tangs out there that would be a better fit, literally.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Oh, is that sticker residue on the inside of your tank?

 

[Cjeezy17]

you have a serious case of ich. The spots are too defined. Also have seen this level of ich plenty of times on fish. All your fish will be infected sadly. So QT all in 2.25ppm copper power or copper safe for 30 days. Hanna HR copper checker for copper

Secret to ammonia in a QT a cycled PolypLab Genesis rock. You will never have ammonia issues. Only reason for a WC would be to get clean water in the tank being you don’t have much of a filter with a HOB that is mostly used in a QT system.

Fallow DT for 60 days.

Hint about velvet, by the time you see it fish is usually beyond saving if not dying. Also the look that velvet has on most fish is the glazed doughnut look. Not the salt look.


And welcome to the forum! Glad to have you here!

Thank you for the Information the picture in my profile is my old 55 gallon tank I now have a 75 with a icecap sump running a uv and protein skimmer on the sump also unfortunately both clowns died last night with that being said I should wait 60 days until I add fish to my display tank also can I leave my rock in the display tank and just wait it out for whatever it is to die

 

[Cjeezy17]

I am inclined to say it is ich as @Jay Hemdal and @winxp_man mentioned.
@Fish Fan provided great info for the fallow period.
Do not add any more livestock of any kind. Follow the fallow protocol and you should be able to get rid of it.
Did you inspect the hippo tang at the LFS prior? They are ich magnets.
If you say you just picked up a 75, what size tank did you have them in prior? Reason I am asking is the blue tang would have needed more room than a 75. There are smaller tangs out there that would be a better fit, literally.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Oh, is that sticker residue on the inside of your tank?

Thanks for all the help the tang was only 1-2 inches long at the time since my plan was to go with a larger tank anyway I got it and didn’t notice any spots at all I inspected it and even asked the person who was selling it to let me watch it eat it looked fine until a a few days after and no that’s just the camera I’m assuming that’s my old tank I need to update my picture again but someone mentioned genesis rock I may get one of those to help my cycle if it would help to