Cloudy water over a month now.

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Good morning to everyone.

I’ll start with my tank being 6 months old now it’s a 20 gallon FOWLR tank with only a hob filter for the filtration. My parameters the last week I checked were

salinity: 1.022
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 2
Phosphate: 0.03
Temp: 78F
Calcium: 390
Magnesium: 1260
Alkalinity: 8.2

test kits: salifert

livestock: 2 clownfish, 2 Bengai cardinals, orchid dottyback. Cleaner shrimp. Red brittle star. 3 trochus snails. 3 hermit crabs.

Feeding: only rinsed mysis shrimp once a day which would be gone in 3-4 bites.


I started with dry rock and live sand. My nitrates and phosphates have been constant after I have replaced 2 HOB filters after my tank has been cycled. Both were aqueon one was more powerful than the others.

I was replacing cartridges which also brought in the cloudiness. Would be constant after that because of the removal of beneficial bacteria

3 weeks ago I gave in with the removal of this cartridge and bought a tidal cause I also needed the surface skimming. The beneficial bacteria did form on the matrix but I feel like it’s not enough to get outcompete the cloudiness and ordered fritz turbo ( will arrive on Tuesday).

It has been a month since I did a water change due to phosphate and nitrate being constant and yesterday I added filter floss.

so my question is. Is there a lack of biological filtration?
 
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As with most things....I'd recommend upping WCs. That load on an HOB might benefit from a more aggressive WC schedule. WC support more than just nitrate/phosphate removal.
I tried the water change method a month ago. It would be slightly clear for one day and then go back to being the same cloudiness the other day.
 
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I’m not sure anymore. The cloudiness is constant I haven’t done any water changes only topping off. The only equipment I keep changing in these months is the HOB filter haven’t even touched the inside of the tank.
When I first cycled I started with fritzzhyme 9 and a shrimp left the shrimp for 6 days to get nasty and then removed. I did a water change each week and it only took my tank 2 weeks to cycle.

K contstantly had cloudy tank and it did not go away until I used a UV Sterilizer. See if you have any reef friends nearby that can let you borrow one to see if that helps. You can try Clarity from Seachem as well
 
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So don't know what your WC schedule was a month ago. But I meant 10-20% every 2-3 days for a week or three. Then start to back off gradually till you find a good routine.

If it slightly cleared up..that's a positive sign to me. And it'll be cheaper than UV/Skimmers.
 
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When I first cycled I started with fritzzhyme 9 and a shrimp left the shrimp for 6 days to get nasty and then removed. I did a water change each week and it only took my tank 2 weeks to cycle.

K contstantly had cloudy tank and it did not go away until I used a UV Sterilizer. See if you have any reef friends nearby that can let you borrow one to see if that helps. You can try Clarity from Seachem as well
I was thinking about clarity.
 
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So don't know what your WC schedule was a month ago. But I meant 10-20% every 2-3 days for a week or three. Then start to back off gradually till you find a good routine.

If it slightly cleared up..that's a positive sign to me. And it'll be cheaper than UV/Skimmers.
Just worried about dino showing up while my tank is only producing 2 nitrates and 0.03 phosphates.
 
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This a recent picture with both lights I only use the white to see the cloudiness
 

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could get one of these. If it’s a bacterial bloom will help clear it up. I picked this unit up for a Dino issue in my 20gal. It worked well.
 
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Just worried about dino showing up while my tank is only producing 2 nitrates and 0.03 phosphates.
Sure could happen, but you do have measurable nitrates/phosphates so I'd address one thing at a time. I don't think too low nutrients precludes doing WC and in fact might allow to you feed more. That's a big load on an small tank HOB. You didn't say what size HOB you have. In my setups with HOB only on smaller tanks is to get the biggest HOB that fits on the back of the tank and load it up with media AND then plan on routine weekly 25% WC.

Is that addressing the exact cause? Maybe not, but if easy and relatively cheap WC works...who cares?
 
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This a recent picture with both lights I only use the white to see the cloudiness
To rule out your sand, take a Hand full and pick it up and drop it. About 3 inches up from bottom. There should be very little clouding if the sand is clean.
 
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Sure could happen, but you do have measurable nitrates/phosphates so I'd address one thing at a time. I don't think too low nutrients precludes doing WC and in fact might allow to you feed more. That's a big load on an small tank HOB. You didn't say what size HOB you have. In my setups with HOB only on smaller tanks is to get the biggest HOB that fits on the back of the tank and load it up with media AND then plan on routine weekly 25% WC.

Is that addressing the exact cause? Maybe not, but if easy and relatively cheap WC works...who cares?
Sorry about that it’s a seachem 55 tidal which supports up to 55 gallon tanks.
 
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To rule out your sand, take a Hand full and pick it up and drop it. About 3 inches up from bottom. There should be very little clouding if the sand is clean.
My sand does get shifted a lot when I did my weekly water changes last month. Didn’t create much cloudiness and was gone after the water change was completed. I’ll try the 2-3 water changes in a week. Cause I really don’t want to add any equipment want to keep it as natural as I could.
 
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This is after 1 hour with a 5 gallon water change.
 

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