Cycling with Seachem Stability

[dawi03]

Hi guys,

im just starting the cycle and have got seachem stability.

I’ve cranked the heat to 30 deg Celsius and have added ammonia, can I put seachem in straight away and dose daily as per the bottle?

thanks!!

 

[shamrock]

can't say using stability worked that well for me, but perhaps i was doing something wrong o_O

perhaps best to wait until you get some answers from someone with good experience

thanks

 

[Alex's Nano Reef]

Hi guys,

im just starting the cycle and have got seachem stability.

I’ve cranked the heat to 30 deg Celsius and have added ammonia, can I put seachem in straight away and dose daily as per the bottle?

thanks!!

ohhhh man Stability . depending where you are in the cycle i would seek a cycle masters opinion. But you should have added the first dose of the stability before dosing the ammonia chloride. are you reading any nitrite or nitrate? what day are you on? i just cycled a tank starting it off with stability and when i hit 0 ammonia added some Dr.Tims i wish i waited the extra 2 days so my LFS could restock on Dr.Tims because my cycle would have been a week shorter Stability doesn't seem to be the best. Go find the thread how to unstick a seemingly stuck cycle by someone named i believe Braydon or Brandon he is a master and will be able to help you out for sure and give you a concrete roadmap for your cycle.

 

[Alex's Nano Reef]

How to unstick any seemingly stuck cycle

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[Sebastiancrab]

I used Seachem Stability but made it so simple. I put it in my tank as instructed and then added a very small pinch of flake fish food each day. No fish. This was the pattern for two weeks. I didn't test and didn't care because I knew it was cycling. At the end I tested the water and also had the LFS do so as a backup and I was ready to go!

 

[Alex's Nano Reef]

I used Seachem Stability but made it so simple. I put it in my tank as instructed and then added a very small pinch of flake fish food each day. No fish. This was the pattern for two weeks. I didn't test and didn't care because I knew it was cycling. At the end I tested the water and also had the LFS do so as a backup and I was ready to go!

He is using Dr.Tims Ammonia chloride to cycle only thing is he added the ammonia before the bacteria.

 

[dawi03]

He is using Dr.Tims Ammonia chloride to cycle only thing is he added the ammonia before the bacteria.

Correct :) however today I just added dr time one and only, hopefully it gets to work :)

 

[Alex's Nano Reef]

Correct :) however today I just added dr time one and only, hopefully it gets to work :)

well im sorry to inform you im pretty sure if you add it into an environment with ammonia u will just kill the bacteria. any updates on your parameters are u reading anything besides ammonia?

 

[Spare time]

well im sorry to inform you im pretty sure if you add it into an environment with ammonia u will just kill the bacteria. any updates on your parameters are u reading anything besides ammonia?

That is not true. Cycling bacteria processes ammonia. Different species move it from ammonia -> nitrite -> nitrate

The only way it could become a serious issue is if you added an insane amount of ammonia, which could produce enough nitrite to kill the very bacteria that produces it, but this requires a massive ammonia load at once.

 

[dawi03]

well im sorry to inform you im pretty sure if you add it into an environment with ammonia u will just kill the bacteria. any updates on your parameters are u reading anything besides ammonia?

Dr Tim’s YouTube videos tells you to add ammonia then dr Tim’s one and only

 

[dawi03]

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That is not true. Cycling bacteria processes ammonia. Different species move it from ammonia -> nitrite -> nitrate

thanks mate

 

[Spare time]

All you need to do to cycle is add a few ppm ammonia, the bacteria, and wait a about a week or two. You will see ammonia go up, then start to go down as nitrite goes up, followed by its decline and the presence of nitrate. 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite indicates you are go to go. This builds a robust bacteria system so that you won't have any issue with your fish. Cycling is the most simple topic in the hobby, yet for some reason it has become blown up as this massively complicated thing requiring paragraphs of responses for something explainable in about 3 sentences.

 

[dawi03]

All you need to do to cycle is add a few ppm ammonia, the bacteria, and wait a about a week or two. You will see ammonia go up, then start to go down as nitrite goes up, followed by its decline and the presence of nitrate. 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite indicates you are go to go. This builds a robust bacteria system so that you won't have any issue with your fish. Cycling is the most simple topic in the hobby, yet for some reason it has become blown up as this massively complicated thing requiring paragraphs of responses for something explainable in about 3 sentences.

Haha yep so I hear! I stuffed my first cycle by overdosing secondary ammonia , so did a full water change and basically started again. But wanted to try stability, then was told after the first dose and adding ammonia that this really isn’t a proper bacteria, so off I went and bought one and only again, poured it in and will literally wait 2-3 weeks

 

[Alex's Nano Reef]

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/how-to-unstick-any-seemingly-stuck-cycle.742202/ go to the beginning. The creator of this thread helped me fix my cycle. so if u run into any problems.

 

[Spare time]

Haha yep so I hear! I stuffed my first cycle by overdosing secondary ammonia , so did a full water change and basically started again. But wanted to try stability, then was told after the first dose and adding ammonia that this really isn’t a proper bacteria, so off I went and bought one and only again, poured it in and will literally wait 2-3 weeks

I am not sure what someone means by it isn't a proper bacteria lol. Then again, I don't know how seachem can keep fresh and marine bacteria in the same bottle (maybe someone else knows?).

 

[Alex's Nano Reef]

Haha yep so I hear! I stuffed my first cycle by overdosing secondary ammonia , so did a full water change and basically started again. But wanted to try stability, then was told after the first dose and adding ammonia that this really isn’t a proper bacteria, so off I went and bought one and only again, poured it in and will literally wait 2-3 weeks

you should wait it out if you dont read any nitrite or nitrate within 14 days i would consult someone on that but the dosing instructions aren't the best for the Ammonia chloride even if you account for the rock and substrate. i followed the instructions did the proper math and day 2 i was reading 8ppm ammonia.

 

[dawi03]

I am not sure what someone means by it isn't a proper bacteria lol. Then again, I don't know how seachem can keep fresh and marine bacteria in the same bottle (maybe someone else knows?).

Me either, I’m just going to leave it to do it’s thing now :)

there’s enough bacteria in there and enough ammonia to start doing it’s thing, and I got given around 8 bio balls from an established tank of 2+ years. So I should be ok this time around :)

 

[Alex's Nano Reef]

I am not sure what someone means by it isn't a proper bacteria lol. Then again, I don't know how seachem can keep fresh and marine bacteria in the same bottle (maybe someone else knows?).

i dont think he really means the proper bacteria as much as he does not the best option that will get it done quick. the stability is a dormant bacteria. But that Dr.Tims is tried and true and quick as hell.

 

[Spare time]

you should wait it out if you dont read any nitrite or nitrate within 14 days i would consult someone on that but the dosing instructions aren't the best for the Ammonia chloride even if you account for the rock and substrate. i followed the instructions did the proper math and day 2 i was reading 8ppm ammonia.

Were you using the instructions in the bottle? They changed the concentration of dr tims ammonium chloride at one point so some online instructions for it are not up to date (assuming you used that brand)

 

[Alex's Nano Reef]

Were you using the instructions in the bottle? They changed the concentration of dr tims ammonium chloride at one point so some online instructions for it are not up to date (assuming you used that brand)

Yeah i used the instructions off the bottle but my tank is fine cycled and got fish in it. But that Stability sucks u add the bottle over a 7 day period vs the Dr.Tims its live u add it all in one go and it gets to work.