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What I find funny is I use halides and I like them a lot But even I know LEDs can and will grow Corals just as good as halides and it has been proven time and time again
Wwc Sanjay vivid battlecorals and soon palettes tank (off the top of my head)
A grandis since I have seen him on this website has always diss on leds which just gets old
Grandis the MACNA video from Tulio that you posted means what?
Have u talked to Tulio in real life been to his shop and actually picked his brain?
You must have Reefbrite pendants like me right?
O no tulios pendants and ballast didn’t work out for you did they? But u don’t tell people that u only tell them what u want to hear.
And the icing on the cake where is you fts? If your going to bash leds the way u do In every light thread you should at least have a photo of ur world renown tank that can make sanjays and wwc look like as bad as the leds they run
But u don’t and u won’t
all you have is words that’s it
sure there are plenty of halide tanks run with success but halides have been around from the beginning of the hobby so of course there is going to be more success stories of halides over leds but it doesn’t mean leds can’t do the same job
Ur bashing progress in our hobby for what? U have ur opinion and that’s great but stop forceing it on us say what u beleive and move on don’t question one of the best hobbyist ever because he wants to run his tank with leds
How about you open up ur mind and see that esp in this hobby there are multiple ways to get to the same point
Ps We’re still waiting for a picture of ur tank so U can prove ur point that leds can’t grow corals but from the zero photos U have put up I would say halides can’t grow Corals for u
Thanks Mike - great post and this provides great additional information.
The recent video with Rico on YouTube is awesome and everyone should watch it who likes this article.
Georgi, Mike has also done a heap of YouTube videos through American Reef. There is one where he goes through a bunch of equipment that he uses to save time. Mike can correct me if I have something wrong but from watching his videos once the tank is established Mike doesn't have much to do. He has connected up all the RODI stuff etc. and his Calcium Reactor is a special type that uses larger chunks of media that takes a long time to dissolve is super simple to clean (I think he has cleaned it once in a year). He feeds often and has a lot of fish. He has always experimented but does have a method and strategy to most things especially with ways he can save time That is what I learned in those videos at least
He is not a scientist and also makes leds.
Anyone selling things should be looked at with scepticism and taken with a grain of sat.
I’ve seen it. He lives in Hawaii so it’s all zoas Wal to Wall.
Its nice.
Thanks for you input, Salty! He claims that he is publishing facts and nothing else.On further reflection, I find this whole situation quite upsetting on many levels.
I’ll not comment further.
I think this argument would be fairly well suited back in 2007, but today...
you do realize that all he said about MH at the point in the video why you are all worked up over was:
"What we've learned over time is we don't need to blast a small tank with 1000W of MH, we can do it with much lower levels the LEDs can provide."
That's not bashing MH, that's simply saying we don't need as much light as we used to think. That's it.
Edit he also said you don't get the brightest colors when you max out the light. He even mentioned the same thing with natural sunlight. Again NONE OF THAT is an attack on your precious MHs. This is why people get frustrated with you. There is nothing he say that makes almost anyone think it's an attack on MH, except you.
I'm not. Are you?My point exactly it’s 2018! we sending people to mars soon! But we here debating if LEDs can grow corals
@10:41
you do realize that all he said about MH at the point in the video why you are all worked up over was:
"What we've learned over time is we don't need to blast a small tank with 1000W of MH, we can do it with much lower levels the LEDs can provide."
That's not bashing MH, that's simply saying we don't need as much light as we used to think. That's it.
Edit he also said you don't get the brightest colors when you max out the light. He even mentioned the same thing with natural sunlight. Again NONE OF THAT is an attack on your precious MHs. This is why people get frustrated with you. There is nothing he say that makes almost anyone think it's an attack on MH, except you.
If you wish to discuss the matter please keep your focus into the essence of the subject.
I'm not. Are you?
Mr. Paletta's tank is a living proof of a great tank under LEDs.
@10:41
As with the parameters, lighting varies from tank to tank. And in a lot of instances we probably don't need quite as much light. We found over time as we're much better with nutrient management and algae and everything else that we don't need to keep our tanks blown out with like we used to with metal halides.
As we were discussing we've known people with 300 gallon tanks running thousand watt metal halides on them because they thought that's what they needed on the reef to keep the reef going. We found over time that's not what we need and you tend not to get the brightest colors.
You saw the sunlight tank, we'll probably take a look at it in a minute. That originally was started off as an SPS tank with my thinking of "okay, what could be better than sunlight?" Well, as I found when you run max light, you tend to get really nice brown corals. They grow like weeds, but they don't look anything like these corals in this tank.