Do white bugs require a higher dosage than red bugs?

[Miami Reef]

What dosage is recommended for acropora white bugs?

I’m using interceptor. Each tablet is 23mg.

My tank volume is 260 gallons.

 

[Miami Reef]

Never mind. I did some research on the forums. Looks like it’s 1 tablet, or 23mg per 100 gal. Treat once a week for 3 weeks. No skimmer, activated carbon,UV, nor Ozone for 24 hours after dosing.

At least that’s how I’m going to do it.

 

[ISpeakForTheSeas]

Never mind. I did some research on the forums. Looks like it’s 1 tablet, or 23mg per 100 gal. Treat once a week for 3 weeks. No skimmer, activated carbon,UV, nor Ozone for 24 hours after dosing.

At least that’s how I’m going to do it.

Hope it works! Let us know how it goes.

 

[Reefahholic]

Never mind. I did some research on the forums. Looks like it’s 1 tablet, or 23mg per 100 gal. Treat once a week for 3 weeks. No skimmer, activated carbon,UV, nor Ozone for 24 hours after dosing.

At least that’s how I’m going to do it.

Here’s so data I collected a while back:

Interceptor dose:

1 large dog tablet (23mg per tablet) per 400/G. Turn off Skimmer and UV. Remove GAC. It is recommended that you complete three treatments, each one week apart. Following each treatment you are to watch for signs of stress in your aquarium, and perform moderate water changes (10-25% after each treatment). [Some people do not do any water changes until after the treatments are completed.]

*Charlie’s Frags (R2R) is dosing 46mg to his 50/G SPS tank which is 11X the recommended ORA dose, and he’s not having any issues with SPS.

*Dustin Dortin (ORA) recommends 8.40-8.60mg per 100/G or 33.6-34.4mg per 400/G. This is slightly more than the typical 23mg large dog tablet that is recommended per 400/G.

https://reefs.com/acropora-red-bug-milbemycin-treatment/

What does Interceptor kill?

Anything considered a Crustacean such as Shrimp, Crab, Barnacles, etc…will be in danger.

*A significant amount of pods will die, but if the dose standard, people report 50% or less. Higher doses kill a larger percentage or could wipe them out completely.

*Peanut worms weren’t affected.

*About 75% of Bristle Worms will likely die.

*Several have claimed all of their Blue Leg Hermits died (remove all hermits possible).

*Shrimp will most likely die unless the dose is lower. (remove shrimp if possible).

*Also consider if you have a “mandarin dragonet” that relies on pods to survive (maybe move to another tank).

Move anything to another tank that you want to keep, but also to prevent or minimize a nutrient, ammonia, or Alk spike. One guy reported his nutrients dropped, and alkalinity remained about the same.

https://www.chewy.com/interceptor-chewable-tablet-dogs-51/dp/172992

[Caution advised for this dose]

A fish vet recommended 75mg per 30/G. He said to leave it in the system for 6 hrs. (This is one the highest dose I’ve seen yet.)

Other doses:

Red bugs: (1) 23mg tablet per 400/G

ORA recommended 8.40-8.60mg per 100/G or 33.6-34.4mg per 400/G.

White bugs: (6-7) 23mg tablets per 400/G. 138-161mg per 400/G.

Grey bugs: (6-7) 23mg tablets per 400/G. 138-161mg per 400/G.

Black bugs: (6-7) 23mg tablets per 400/G. 138-161mg per 400/G.

(Bugs apparently need the highest dose)

 

[Reefahholic]

@Charlie’s Frags

Any differences since then? Any negatives, positives, or dosing modifications?

 

[Charlie’s Frags]

@Charlie’s Frags

Any differences since then? Any negatives, positives, or dosing modifications?

The only change I’ve made is I got my hands on sentinel which appears to have worked better at preventing future infestations. I haven’t needed to treat the tank again so far.

 

[Miami Reef]

I’m planning on adding 92mg in my 260 gallon tank. That is 4 large tablets.

It appears white bugs might be harder to treat.

 

[TXReefer79]

Im looking to dose for a 160G and I see I can get these from Canada but they say they are chews? Is that the same thing?

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

I’m planning on adding 92mg in my 260 gallon tank. That is 4 large tablets.

It appears white bugs might be harder to treat.

I've had white bugs and followed the suggestion to dose 3 (23mg each) per 100g. 3 treatments 1 week apart. Skimmer off for the 1st 12h after dose.

I've done 6 pills per 100g to treat for the black bugs.

 

[alindell]

I had black bugs. 1 pill killed the ones on my montipora in a 140 gallons

 

[sdreef]

I’m planning on adding 92mg in my 260 gallon tank. That is 4 large tablets.

It appears white bugs might be harder to treat.

Did you complete treatment? How did this go for you?

 

[Miami Reef]

Did you complete treatment? How did this go for you?

Everything is fine and happy. No losses except the mantis shrimp and pods.

 

[sdreef]

Everything is fine and happy. No losses except the mantis shrimp and pods.

Thanks, what dosage did you settle on? 4 tablets for 260 gallons?

 

[Miami Reef]

Thanks, what dosage did you settle on? 4 tablets for 260 gallons?

I did 6 tablets, 23mg each tablet, in my 260 gallon tank once a week for a total of 3 treatments.

 

[spsick]

White bugs took me 1 pill per 80g once a week for 3 weeks to finally wipe white bugs for good.

 

[sdreef]

I did 6 tablets, 23mg each tablet, in my 260 gallon tank once a week for a total of 3 treatments.

What protocol did you follow? Did you perform a water change after each treatment and leave the skimmer off for a period of time or no water changes for the duration of treatment? Did you use milbemycin alone or any additional medication?

Thank you

White bugs took me 1 pill per 80g once a week for 3 weeks to finally wipe white bugs for good.

Same question, what protocol did you use for your final treatment? How long has it been since your final treatment?

Thanks

 

[spsick]

What protocol did you follow? Did you perform a water change after each treatment and leave the skimmer off for a period of time or no water changes for the duration of treatment? Did you use milbemycin alone or any additional medication?

Thank you



Same question, what protocol did you use for your final treatment? How long has it been since your final treatment?

Thanks

Honestly I was pretty lazy about it as big manual water changes are a pain for me. Like 15% after each tops (in addition to my 15% weekly AWC)

I used the dumb chews with prazi in them as that’s all I can get (canadapetcare) and they are a PAIN to get mixed into water. I put them in the blender with RO water.

I added some amphipods and copepods from Dinkins to reseed after.

It’s been 3+ months.

 

[Miami Reef]

What protocol did you follow? Did you perform a water change after each treatment and leave the skimmer off for a period of time or no water changes for the duration of treatment? Did you use milbemycin alone or any additional medication?

Thank you

I removed the activated carbon and allowed the skimmer to overflow into the sump. I ensured my reactors had no carbon and allowed it to run to get the medication throughout every surface.

I let it run for 24 hours and then skimmed and used activated carbon between treatments.

I didn’t change water, but I ended up doing a big one after the entire treatment for the heck of it.

I reseeded with copepods from @Eldredge

 

[whitelightning77]

I removed the activated carbon and allowed the skimmer to overflow into the sump. I ensured my reactors had no carbon and allowed it to run to get the medication throughout every surface.

I let it run for 24 hours and then skimmed and used activated carbon between treatments.

I didn’t change water, but I ended up doing a big one after the entire treatment for the heck of it.

I reseeded with copepods from @Eldredge

I'm about to do this as well to my 300 gal. Did you lose any ornamental shrimp? Aside from the mantis?

 

[Miami Reef]

I'm about to do this as well to my 300 gal. Did you lose any ornamental shrimp? Aside from the mantis?

Yes I did. All the cleaner and peppermint shrimp died. I couldn’t remove them.

I lost the mantis, but oddly enough, the pistol shrimp survived. So did both of the arrow crabs.

It also killed all of the emerald crabs. I couldn’t remove those either.