Ecotech Radion G6?

[Nonya]

not likely. Shadowing and hard shimmer lines are the entire point of a kessil type light. Without a hybrid setup, there is no way to have your cake and eat it too. In a single unit, you will find yourself somewhere on the gradient of hard shadows and natural shimmer, and zero shimmer and no shading at all. Some lights have attempted to make both happen in one, but it has not been successful. They know exactly what they're offering at Kessil.

Some people favor adding T-5s to reduce shadowing and manage shimmer.

 

[Harold999]

Wish they would make a stronger bracket 1 that don't bend when light is on it. It's not even level they should work on that really.

I use a Kessil bracket with my Radion. Works great, looks good.

 

[Superlightman]

not likely. Shadowing and hard shimmer lines are the entire point of a kessil type light. Without a hybrid setup, there is no way to have your cake and eat it too. In a single unit, you will find yourself somewhere on the gradient of hard shadows and natural shimmer, and zero shimmer and no shading at all. Some lights have attempted to make both happen in one, but it has not been successful. They know exactly what they're offering at Kessil.

The red sea really surprised me in this way, it is not worse than my radions despite been a point source. But I still add t5 to the leds radions or others the results on corals are just better.

 

[Superlightman]

As I was thinking this update is...
The good new for g4 users your ficture is a g6
Just found this comparison :

 

[Harold999]

As I was thinking this update is...
The good new for g4 users your ficture is a g6
Just found this comparison :

Data provided by various people who didn't do the A/B comparison by themselves? So not sure about this.

By the way, where are all the user reviews of the new G6 here on this forum? Very, very quiet...

 

[Superlightman]

Data provided by various people who didn't do the A/B comparison by themselves? So not sure about this.

By the way, where are all the user reviews of the new G6 here on this forum? Very, very quiet...

The publication has been done by a famous lighting specialist, he knows what he says .

 

[blaxsun]

The publication has been done by a famous lighting specialist, he knows what he says .

Is there a G5 in this?

 

[areefer01]

The publication has been done by a famous lighting specialist, he knows what he says .

And who would that be?

 

[Tamberav]

And who would that be?

says right in the image. Telegraham.

He has write ups and data on tons of lights.

get out from under your rock. Just teasing

 

[areefer01]

says right in the image. Telegraham.

He has write ups and data on tons of lights.

get out from under your rock. Just teasing

Missed it as I only saw the larger FB post/delete thus me asking.

As far as teasing goes - all good

 

[Jon's Reef]

But what does the native G6 blue spectrum look like? Those are AB+ profile.

 

[oreo54]

But what does the native G6 blue spectrum look like? Those are AB+ profile.

Of course they also omit whether
1) Output of the diodes is increased (next gen?)
2) Completely different distribution (new optics)
You know.. the important stuff..
Anyway

 

[Jon's Reef]

But how does that plot make sense?

G5 Pro: 32 Royal/16 Blue
G6 Pro: 32 Royal/16 Blue
Why would the Blue peak drop from ~70% to 45% if the diode ratio is the same?
Other possible convolutions in that range:
Cool White: 24 --> 16
Green: 6 --> 6

The increase in 430 is clearly seen on the left shoulder.

By the diode mix tweak, the G6 should show a much broader 400-500 nm peak (the discrepancy in expectation vs reality between G5 to G6 Blue is even larger)

 

[Fezzik]

Wow. Glad I stumbled across this. Of my 3 of my x30w g4 2 are needing repair. They are flashing red on top. I may just get them repaired instead of getting G6 and have my apex connection still.

 

[Nonya]

Yes, it was intentionally vague and intended to be poking fun at Ecotech making extraordinary claims about the coverage of their lights and each "new" generation being orders of magnitude better than the last. It's just like the new phone of the week. Not saying that Ecotech is alone in this type of marketing.

It's called salesmanship.

 

[Nonya]

But how does that plot make sense?

G5 Pro: 32 Royal/16 Blue
G6 Pro: 32 Royal/16 Blue
Why would the Blue peak drop from ~70% to 45% if the diode ratio is the same?
Other possible convolutions in that range:
Cool White: 24 --> 16
Green: 6 --> 6

The increase in 430 is clearly seen on the left shoulder.

By the diode mix tweak, the G6 should show a much broader 400-500 nm peak (the discrepancy in expectation vs reality between G5 to G6 Blue is even larger)

You'd have to compare apples to apples. I'm pretty sure the whites contribute to the blue spectrum because white LEDs are blue with a white phosphor. Second, I believe the blue LEDs could be running at different wattages, especially the Gen 4s. Also, Gen6 Pros have the addition of 395nm.

 

[telegraham]

I may just get them repaired instead of getting G6 and have my apex connection still.

I'd totally keep the Gen 4s. If you can repair them, for the money, they are very hard to beat.

 

[telegraham]

the G6 should show a much broader 400-500 nm peak

There are three differences that stand out to me. The optics are silly wide. That improves the BRS glass box test results, but may not translate to a better look in a hobbyists tank. That, and over the same area, the available PAR is reduced. Second is the inclusion of 395ish nm. That reverses the years of "UV" marketing. This is the first production Radion actually to have a UV diode. Regardless of what the sliders state, the others offered violet and above. Last is the 6's 430nm addition vs the 4's 415nm. That's an interesting move that might not satisfy the lovers of the 4's deep violet.

If you're not expecting a huge difference, then the broader range you mentioned is there, but it happens to be in the 395-500 range. Regarding 400-500 range, that can't be broader as it's 400-500. Can's stretch spectrum, but maybe you mean relative spectrum intensities. If that's the case, you do point to the interesting loss of 470 (Windex color) in the Gen 6. That's real.

All peaks are relative to the others and the data were captured using the same model spectrometer that BRS uses.

 

[Jon's Reef]

All peaks are relative to the others and the data were captured using the same model spectrometer that BRS uses.

Not questioning your spectrometer (or BRS's measurements). I am wondering if there is a deeper issue (firmware or hardware driver) which doesn't allow the full potential.

 

[telegraham]

Not questioning your spectrometer (or BRS's measurements). I am wondering if there is a deeper issue (firmware or hardware driver) which doesn't allow the full potential.

Didn't take it as a challenge, and shared for transparency. I'd be surprised if it's not just a power balancing/temperature management thing. Regardless, for those who like the ATI Blue Plus/Gen 4 Windex option, adding 470nm to a reef is super easy.