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Warning-non directional, brainless babbling below. I apologize in advance...

Anyone out there ever have to do an elimination diet to find a food allergy? I had sinus surgery in Nov, but continued to have sinus issues, despite him opening up some drainage paths from 1/32" to 1/4". Next I was tested for environmental allergies, but apparently the immuno therapy in Nashville took care of those. The next step was food allergies, for which there is no reliable test, except this diet, apparently. With IBS and Crohn's diagnosis/treatments over the last 15 years, I've had a lot of stomach issues, too (life was a series of short, non miserable moments, spaced out to about a decade at a time...). This sounded like a way for me to find the exascerbator of the stomach problems, though, so if I didn't try it, I can't really complain about the stomach problems, right? At that point, I was willing to try anything.

Basically, the diet consists of very little that American's eat. If it's been fed by humans, it's no good. No beef, chicken (though I've been eating Bate's turkey with no issues-vegetarian fed), tomatoes, potatoes, legumes, citrus, apples, processed anything, etc. Basically, wild caught fish (no tilapia, catfish, or other farmed fishes), venison (wife can't stand it), Bates turkey, strawberries, grapes, canteloupe, watermelon, pineapple, black berries, raisons w/walnuts, and green beans. You drop just about everything you used to eat for 30 days to let it get out of your system, then add one product back at a time (for 3-7 days before moving on to the next, unless symptoms are immediate).

I've dropped nearly 30 pounds (no exercise, mind you) and am still losing a pound or more a day. That doesn't seem right, but... I started Jan 20, so I've been at it a while. Tea was the first thing I tried to add back, as I drank at least a gallon of nectar a day (I like sweet sweet tea). After three days, no go (bad results). Now I'm on potatoes. Not too bad, but still some effect. This isn't an easy diet (I'm dying for a cheeseburger).

Two days after starting the diet, I felt better than I had in 10 years. I still get the sharp pains in my lower right and left side pretty frequently, but I don't feel nasty sick 30 hours a day right now. I've had some pretty bad days in there, too, but more good than bad. Overall, I haven't felt this good since I was in college. I feel like I'm starving all the time, but still better than the last 15 years of my life. Now, I've not slept more than 2 hours a night in about three weeks, though. Kind of a catch 22. I'm feeling better, but the lack of sleep has gotten into my brain and is playing some crazy games. I've been taking Ambien CR for three days now, and am just as wide awake as I ever am. 1.5 hours the first night, and a whopping 2.5 hours last night. Nothing so far tonight... Benadryl, Valium, Xanax, nothing has worked, even slightly.

How do you guys handle sleeping problems? I've had bouts of insomnia for a couple of decades now (I'm only 34), so it isn't anything new for me, but with my metabolism seemingly off the charts right now, if I wake up at 1:30 (not getting to sleep until 12:00), I'm up for the remainder of the night. Any home remedies I can try?

Anyway, just wanted to share my experience and see if anyone else out there had ever tortured themselves to this degree and had issues or other experiences to share. My weight loss is pretty amazing (started at 216 and am down to 188-I was 175 as a freshman in high school, so I'm starting to worry a little). I feel a lot better, though (not without the same ole underlying issues that have been kicking my butt for over a decade, but much better than before). Should I complain? It looks like I'll be up again all night, but is (unintentional) brain deadmess worse than the way I felt most of the time now? Jury is still out on this one, but right now, I still have to say no. It's quickly catching up, though.

Any other experiences with something like this? I figure I'll likely find out that all my favorite foods are slowly killing me (or at least exascerbating the deeper problem), but at least I'll know. Pretty bittersweet. But at the same time, my quality of life has dramaticaly improved from the third level of hell to the a sunny day with no sun. That sounds bad, but I see it as good, actually;).

I apologize again for those who actually made it through the above:D. I just haven't ever heard of anyone else actually doing this and would love to hear some other experiences. See, I can't even stop the ramble... I'm going to force a move to the Sumit New Thread button now so I can quit torturing anyone still reading this... My writings are often like a trainwreck, and tonight, the conductor has no control over his faculties.
 
lol I had to read every word of your post. I hope you figure out the cause of your pains and get to the problem soon! Alot of your symptoms (minus the stomach pain) remind me of when I used to work out hard core. I was super strict on my diet. I only ate canned tuna, sunflower seeds, oatmeal, just the bare minimum and just what my body would need. I remember trying to sleep at night and I just couldnt. It was as if I could hear everything around me no matter what. So instead I would just have to meditate all night long. It was a huge pain but somehow meditating allowed my body to get its rest enough for me to work out the next day.

As you said your metabolism is making crazy things happen. What would help me ease off into sleepy land though would be to take a long hot bath. Also, you said you dont exercise, if you do some kind of physical activity and exhaust your body you can overload your system so you just doze off (have any memories of working so hard you feel dead tired and then you sleep like a baby?). As far as dying for a cheeseburger this is what I did when on my diet. If i was craving brownies I'd buy a brownie and smell it until I was sick of it. It sounds weird but taste and smell work hand in hand so if you smell something enough you'll get full off of it without the calories! It might feel like torture at first but just close your eyes and inhale the yummyness. Eventually you'll lose a desire for it and get your fill off the smell alone. The sleep was the biggest problem for me too I remember that man it sucked so much but I had so much energy that I felt superhuman. Also breathing can lower your heartrate and put you into that sleep mode. When you lie down to sleep do this breathe in through your nose and out of your mouth but do it this way. Breathe in to the count of 4 (breathe in for four seconds) and then pause for two seconds then exhale out of your mouth to the count of 4. Doing this lowers your heart rate and put you into a meditation mode. Dont focus too much on counting just relax and eventually you'll get into some weird blank zone where you arent thinking about anything, your breathing is going on its on and you are as close to sleep as possible. I hope some of this stuff helps you out! Good luck and take care! (hahaha got you back with my long ramble :-P )
 
I struggle with my weight. Mind you I am about 210 (doctor says its to heavy) and about 5 foot 7.

First thing I need to stress is that if you are loosing a pound a day you are loosing to much. I am afraid you might encounter other problems. From what I understand healthy weight loss is about 2lbs per week. It looks like what you are doing is cutting out most if not all protein. This is also a bad thing.

As far as your sleeping I am in the same boat as you with the ambien. I have been taking it for 2 months now. What I find is that unlike most people I know it does not knock me out. I can take it and be up 3 hours later. BUT what I have noticed is that after about an hour if I go lay down I will fall asleep, and sleep through the night.

If ambien still is not working there are 2 alternatives I know of that do work very well. one is Melatonin and the other is Valarien root. Both can be bought at any walmart and it works like a charm. Of course as your Dr if its ok to take it. My Dr suggested it.

Hope this helps.
 
Thanks guys. I need to get an exercise routine going. Since I left Nashville two years ago, I've not found a karate school to keep me active. I've got the break the cycle of being so tired (with too energy, if that makes sense), so I can get a jog in or something. My wife bought us some balance balls, so I need to start using those as well.

I've tried melatonin before with no effect, bu haven't tried Valerian root. I'll give that a shot, too.

I dont mind if I lose another 5 pounds or so, as I'd be ripped like never before. I haven't lost any now in two days (weigh at the same time and under same circumstances every day;)). One of the things that didn't fit the bill with Crohn's was that I hadn't gone on a huge weight loss, like most do. I'm wondering if I'm kick starting it now. I feel a lot better as far as the stomach issues go (worlds better, despite the anxiety like flutter all day every day-maybe that's just me starving, though). A few of the foods I've tried adding back in have shown signs of issues, so I hope I can find a few more things soon to bring more bulk back into my diet. I may switch to some sort of organic or vegetarian fed beef next so I can get some meat going again. I took one day off the diet (last Friday) and went to Shogun for some vittles. Within two hours, I had some pretty bad cramping and paid for it the entire weekend (and into the week). Let's just say, I got nothing from the food I ate that night;). That seems to be the case a lot of times lately...

I haven't meditated since college (Hapkido), but we did something similar. We did a 4 count in, hold for 4, and out for 8, slow and controlled, as if your nose were just above the water surface and you didn't want to ripple it (no ripples in still water, when there is no pebble tossed...). That usually stripped any mental and physical ailments out before class. Definitely couldn't hurt, esp., as I'm feel wound tight as a tourniquet.
 
At least you've isolated the fact that whatever you ate that night out has to do with messing your stomach up, thats a good thing!

Im glad to find another martial arts practitioner here! :bigsmile:

Ive been practicing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu now for close to 8 months and I love it. Prior to that I was training in Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do for five years. Im also studying Muay Thai. All in all the things you learn from incorporating martial arts help you all the way through (For instance the breathing you learned in Hapkido). That Valerian root sounds really interesting I might try some myself.

Not to hijack the thread but I find that no matter how much sleep I get if I sit down to do something that I really could care less about I start falling asleep. I could drink a cup of coffee or a can of red bull (I have tried) and within ten mins i'll feel sleepy. I think its something psychological but I wish I could break it. I need high energy situations all the time gotta keep the brain going. Maybe I have ADD or something lol. Anyhow Im keeping an eye on your progress. Good Luck! :hungry:


Thanks guys. I need to get an exercise routine going. Since I left Nashville two years ago, I've not found a karate school to keep me active. I've got the break the cycle of being so tired (with too energy, if that makes sense), so I can get a jog in or something. My wife bought us some balance balls, so I need to start using those as well.

I've tried melatonin before with no effect, bu haven't tried Valerian root. I'll give that a shot, too.

I dont mind if I lose another 5 pounds or so, as I'd be ripped like never before. I haven't lost any now in two days (weigh at the same time and under same circumstances every day;)). One of the things that didn't fit the bill with Crohn's was that I hadn't gone on a huge weight loss, like most do. I'm wondering if I'm kick starting it now. I feel a lot better as far as the stomach issues go (worlds better, despite the anxiety like flutter all day every day-maybe that's just me starving, though). A few of the foods I've tried adding back in have shown signs of issues, so I hope I can find a few more things soon to bring more bulk back into my diet. I may switch to some sort of organic or vegetarian fed beef next so I can get some meat going again. I took one day off the diet (last Friday) and went to Shogun for some vittles. Within two hours, I had some pretty bad cramping and paid for it the entire weekend (and into the week). Let's just say, I got nothing from the food I ate that night;). That seems to be the case a lot of times lately...

I haven't meditated since college (Hapkido), but we did something similar. We did a 4 count in, hold for 4, and out for 8, slow and controlled, as if your nose were just above the water surface and you didn't want to ripple it (no ripples in still water, when there is no pebble tossed...). That usually stripped any mental and physical ailments out before class. Definitely couldn't hurt, esp., as I'm feel wound tight as a tourniquet.
 
Well it sounds like you're on the right track to me. The sleeping thing, i agree about the exercise..... ride your bike, take a walk, jazzercise (:bigsmile:)
about 2-3 hours before bed and you will sleep like a baby.
 
I took Hapkido for about 6 months in college, along with Blue Dragon Kung Fu (didn't get into it until last semester of college). I picked up with Isshinryu, which incorporated some Jui Jitsu (Gracy) and Modern Arnis. I loved Modern Arnis. Stick fighting seemed to come pretty natural to me. I'm so out of practice, though. Reflexes are still pretty quick (they seem to still be improving), but if I tried to throw a real kick, I'd probably be laid up for a while. My hams are tight as they can be. I think I have the wife talked into doing Yoshu Kai, here in Montgomery. It sounds like they let you open up and knock each other around like Isshinryu did. I don't mind a black eye/bloody nose/cracked rib if it's all in fun. I'm not the best point fighter, but I can take a beating:D:D:D. I have to get back into something. I think I'm going to go for a jog now...
 
lol! once you get that itch you just cant quit! a jog sounds fun! You sound like a well rounded individual. Very cool man, very cool! Yeah schools that hold you back give you false confidence and when you face a real life situation you'll get a real life lesson real quick. I hope you find a good school and get back into the "swing" of things! :tongue:


I took Hapkido for about 6 months in college, along with Blue Dragon Kung Fu (didn't get into it until last semester of college). I picked up with Isshinryu, which incorporated some Jui Jitsu (Gracy) and Modern Arnis. I loved Modern Arnis. Stick fighting seemed to come pretty natural to me. I'm so out of practice, though. Reflexes are still pretty quick (they seem to still be improving), but if I tried to throw a real kick, I'd probably be laid up for a while. My hams are tight as they can be. I think I have the wife talked into doing Yoshu Kai, here in Montgomery. It sounds like they let you open up and knock each other around like Isshinryu did. I don't mind a black eye/bloody nose/cracked rib if it's all in fun. I'm not the best point fighter, but I can take a beating:D:D:D. I have to get back into something. I think I'm going to go for a jog now...
 
a gallon of nectar a day (I like sweet sweet tea)=insomnia
I had to cut out the Diet Dr Peppers could not sleep at night.
 
Oh, I've only had water since Jan 20. No sweetness for me. I added in unsweet tea for a few days and on day three had some issues. Not sure if its caffeine or tannins, etc. I used to hate water (why drink nasty ole water when you can have nectar), but I've become pretty fond of it. I took a sip of my wife's tea tonight (from McAlister's Deli, so it's the goosd stuff) and was like, "Aiiiinnhh". It's not bad, but I may have lost my thrist for it.

The jog tonight was the first time I've gone for a run in over a year. it was the easiest mile I've had in at least a decade. Barely got winded and didn't sweat much (and I used to drop 5 pounds min a night in karate from sweating-hyperhydrolysis if I ever saw it). I'm going to keep it up now that I've started and add in some other exercises tomorrow. It should help me sleep and break some of the building anxiety I think I've been feeling lately (may just be that I feel like I'm starving on this freakin diet). I can't stop the diet until I find my problem foods, though, so I'm stuck with it unless it becomes a real detriment to my health. A lot of give and a little take... If I can isolate the cause of my stomach issues (or exacerbators, anyway), it'll be worth it in the long run.

I'm already feeling a little better since the run:).
 
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man you make me wanna get up and go jogging right now! :cry:


Oh, I've only had water since Jan 20. No sweetness for me. I added in unsweet tea for a few days and on day three had some issues. Not sure if its caffeine or tannins, etc. I used to hate water (why drink nasty ole water when you can have nectar), but I've become pretty fond of it. I took a sip of my wife's tea tonight (from mcAlister's Deli, so it's the goosd stuff) and was like, "Aiiiinn". It's not bad, but I may have lost my thrist for it.

The jog tonight was the first time I've gone for a run in over a year. it was the easiest run I've had in at least a decade. Barely got winded and didn't sweat much (and I used to drop 5 pounds min a night in karate from sweating-hyperhydrolysis if I ever saw it). I'm going to keep it up now that I've started and add in some other exercised tomorrow. It should help me sleep and break some of the building anxiety I think I've been feeling lately (may just be that I feel like I'm starving on this freakin diet). I can't stop the diet until I find my problem foods, though, so I'm stuck with it unless it becomes a real detriment to my health. A lot of give and a little take... I'm already feeling a little better since the run:).
 
Wow. I got 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep last night. Head is still crawling back out into the light. Must have been the little run I did (and the Ambien actually worked this time). No Ambien tonight, so I'm going to see if I can keep it up with just exercise. I've also decided that I'm going off the diet once a week to get some tasty treats in me. It can only take a few days to cycle out any of the 'pollutants' that will mess up my analysis of the foods I'm eating, and will likely put more bulk into my diet (as long as it processes correctly). I thnik this will give me a better path forward in selecting things that don't bother my stomach as I try adding back in. If I don't have a horrible reaction to my off diet foods, I'll make them choices for reintroduction sooner to see if over the course of several days they still cause no issues. I'm wondering if soy was my issue from last weekend. My allergist mentioned that soy was a big allergy food, and I thnik it is in a lot of processed foods as a fillter in some form or another. That'll not make me happy (I love asian foods...), but if that's it, I'll have to get over it.
 
I've never been a sound sleeper-I usually wake up several times a night, but usually get back to sllep to average 4-5 hours a night-just not lately. Two or three weeks with 2-3 hours a night, and not restful, and I was not a happy camper. I hope I'm breaking the cycle. Exercise will have to be a benefit:). When this is all done and over with, I bet I feel great.
 
Glad to hear you got some rest! Hey I just got an idea. Have you ever tried taking beano or those lactose intolerant pills before eating? I dont even know if those work.
 

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