ESV Bionic VS BRS Hybrid Method

[fishnugget1]

Have been using ESV 2 Part for years. Thinking of changing to BRS Hybrid 2 Part system with Tropic Marin.

Anyone doing either and results?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Have been using ESV 2 Part for years. Thinking of changing to BRS Hybrid 2 Part system with Tropic Marin.

Anyone doing either and results?

Both are good ways to go, and they are functionally equivalent (IMO). My BRS recipe plus TM Balling Part C is a little less potent, but no less desirable.

 

[Salty_Northerner]

I think the Tropic Marin is a good way to go. What are you trying to accomplish and what size of tank?

 

[fishnugget1]

Growth & Better Coloration

 

[areefer01]

Both are good ways to go, and they are functionally equivalent (IMO). My BRS recipe plus TM Balling Part C is a little less potent, but no less desirable.

Can't one just add C to the ESV 2 part and achieve the same thing or is the emphasis on cost reduction?

 

[spsick]

Can't one just add C to the ESV 2 part and achieve the same thing or is the emphasis on cost reduction?

Part C is redundant if you are using B-Ionic as it’s already in that solution.

 

[Salty_Northerner]

Why not try AFR? Can't go wrong using it.

 

[Salty_Northerner]

Also what's in there for corals, and tank size would help for others to chime in

 

[areefer01]

Part C is redundant if you are using B-Ionic as it’s already in that solution.

Ah that is right - no salinity increase. Forgot. Thank you.

 

[Salty_Northerner]

Ah that is right - no salinity increase. Forgot. Thank you.

Why even ask questions if you don't bother replying to anybody except one person?

You do realize people do follow posts to gather information correct.

Happy reefing

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Can't one just add C to the ESV 2 part and achieve the same thing or is the emphasis on cost reduction?

ESV is already functionally identical to the two part plus Balling Part C. It just incorporates those chemicals into the two parts, as others have noted. Do not add Balling Part C when using ESV.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Ah that is right - no salinity increase. Forgot. Thank you.

Both ESV and Balling do increase salinity.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Why not try AFR? Can't go wrong using it.

It has pros and cons, like any additive. Lack of a pH boost and cosy are two of its main drawbacks.

 

[areefer01]

Both ESV and Balling do increase salinity.

I thought part C corrected the salinity creep over time of traditional 2 part. Sorry about that.

 

[Koty]

It keeps the ratios to not accumulate too much NaCl

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Right, it keeps all ions in a seawater ratio, not by reducing the rise of sodium and chloride, but by adding everything else in seawater. In that way, it accelerates the salinity rise, but prevents ion ratio changes and all you need to do is maintain proper salinity.

 

[areefer01]

It keeps the ratios to not accumulate too much NaCl

Right, it keeps all ions in a seawater ratio, not by reducing the rise of sodium and chloride, but by adding everything else in seawater. In that way, it accelerates the salinity rise, but prevents ion ratio changes and all you need to do is maintain proper salinity.

Thanks.

 

[fishnugget1]

Sorry I was traveling.

200 Gallon tank. Mostly acros.

Always adjusting for salinity creep.

 

[BAMatter]

Right, it keeps all ions in a seawater ratio, not by reducing the rise of sodium and chloride, but by adding everything else in seawater. In that way, it accelerates the salinity rise, but prevents ion ratio changes and all you need to do is maintain proper salinity.

Old post and reply, but does ESV achieve the same thing as balling method in terms of trace levels in balance when you bring salinity down as it creeps up, or does it leave you with diluted trace elements which balling method supposedly prevents? I’m aware that trace do need to be additionally supplemented in both systems..

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Old post and reply, but does ESV achieve the same thing as balling method in terms of trace levels in balance when you bring salinity down as it creeps up, or does it leave you with diluted trace elements which balling method supposedly prevents? I’m aware that trace do need to be additionally supplemented in both systems..

ESV B-ionic, TM Balling, and BRS Balling Hybrid using Part C should all attain the same approximate functional endpoints when used appropriately. :)