Fish and Treatment Guidelines (with chart)

[cody hendrix]

There’s a chart on the first page of this thread. It’s like a wrasse so you may have to be cautious with it.

Yea I saw the chart but didn't see it on the chart.

 

[Greenstreet.1]

Yea I saw the chart but didn't see it on the chart.

It is there it says 5 for parrotfish in cp.

 

[cody hendrix]

It is there it says 5 for parrotfish in cp.

My bad I didn't see it there. so ill defiantly stay away from CP for it then. Copper it is then

 

[Mundeez]

Hey guys I wanted to share a recent success story. After a tank-wide ich outbreak, the result of introducing an un-quarantined Mandarin Dragonet, I had a tough choice to make as far as quarantine procedures go. My fish (Purple Tang, Blue Hippo, Foxface, 3 Chromis, 2 clowns, and now a Mandarin) weren't all qualified to go into QT with QP, due to the Hippo. However, due to space restrictions, husbandry concerns, and time constraints, I had to give it a try as it was the only quarantine option that was feasible for me. (TTM wasn't possible given my schedule at the time, and I'd had problems with copper too).

I asked @Humblefish ahead of time if he'd ever heard of anyone getting a Hippo through CP treatment, and he informed me that @melypr1985 had done it recently... So I decided to give it a shot. During the first week, she was okay, but eventually she stopped eating her normal food. At this point I was ready to take her out, but fortunately I was able to get her to start eating again by offering a different food (they were all originally eating a homemade blend of shrimp, scallops, white fish, broccoli, vitamins, and garlic). I had to start offering her more seaweed starting in week 2... But eventually she didn't want that either. Finally I tried PE pellets, which got her through to the end of treatment. I watched her like a hawk the whole time (she's my favorite fish) and I really believe the varied diet helped get her through.

Also, yes I learned my lesson about adding un-quarantined fish to the DT...I rolled the dice when I added the Mandarin because I'd previously failed at getting one through QT. Unfortunately, this second Mandarin, the one that caused all the trouble, didn't make it either (despite adding $60 worth of live copepods to the QT specifically for her). I've given up the Dragonet dream, but wanted to share that it is possible to get a Hippo through CP... So maybe the red "5" on the chart at the beginning of this thread can come down to like an orange "4". Also a big thanks to everyone who helped along the way [emoji1]

 

[Humblefish]

@Mundeez That's great news! :)

 

[Greenstreet.1]

Hey guys I wanted to share a recent success story. After a tank-wide ich outbreak, the result of introducing an un-quarantined Mandarin Dragonet, I had a tough choice to make as far as quarantine procedures go. My fish (Purple Tang, Blue Hippo, Foxface, 3 Chromis, 2 clowns, and now a Mandarin) weren't all qualified to go into QT with QP, due to the Hippo. However, due to space restrictions, husbandry concerns, and time constraints, I had to give it a try as it was the only quarantine option that was feasible for me. (TTM wasn't possible given my schedule at the time, and I'd had problems with copper too).

I asked @Humblefish ahead of time if he'd ever heard of anyone getting a Hippo through CP treatment, and he informed me that @melypr1985 had done it recently... So I decided to give it a shot. During the first week, she was okay, but eventually she stopped eating her normal food. At this point I was ready to take her out, but fortunately I was able to get her to start eating again by offering a different food (they were all originally eating a homemade blend of shrimp, scallops, white fish, broccoli, vitamins, and garlic). I had to start offering her more seaweed starting in week 2... But eventually she didn't want that either. Finally I tried PE pellets, which got her through to the end of treatment. I watched her like a hawk the whole time (she's my favorite fish) and I really believe the varied diet helped get her through.

Also, yes I learned my lesson about adding un-quarantined fish to the DT...I rolled the dice when I added the Mandarin because I'd previously failed at getting one through QT. Unfortunately, this second Mandarin, the one that caused all the trouble, didn't make it either (despite adding $60 worth of live copepods to the QT specifically for her). I've given up the Dragonet dream, but wanted to share that it is possible to get a Hippo through CP... So maybe the red "5" on the chart at the beginning of this thread can come down to like an orange "4". Also a big thanks to everyone who helped along the way [emoji1]

Was that eBay or dr ordered ?

 

[cody hendrix]

Hey guys I wanted to share a recent success story. After a tank-wide ich outbreak, the result of introducing an un-quarantined Mandarin Dragonet, I had a tough choice to make as far as quarantine procedures go. My fish (Purple Tang, Blue Hippo, Foxface, 3 Chromis, 2 clowns, and now a Mandarin) weren't all qualified to go into QT with QP, due to the Hippo. However, due to space restrictions, husbandry concerns, and time constraints, I had to give it a try as it was the only quarantine option that was feasible for me. (TTM wasn't possible given my schedule at the time, and I'd had problems with copper too).

I asked @Humblefish ahead of time if he'd ever heard of anyone getting a Hippo through CP treatment, and he informed me that @melypr1985 had done it recently... So I decided to give it a shot. During the first week, she was okay, but eventually she stopped eating her normal food. At this point I was ready to take her out, but fortunately I was able to get her to start eating again by offering a different food (they were all originally eating a homemade blend of shrimp, scallops, white fish, broccoli, vitamins, and garlic). I had to start offering her more seaweed starting in week 2... But eventually she didn't want that either. Finally I tried PE pellets, which got her through to the end of treatment. I watched her like a hawk the whole time (she's my favorite fish) and I really believe the varied diet helped get her through.

Also, yes I learned my lesson about adding un-quarantined fish to the DT...I rolled the dice when I added the Mandarin because I'd previously failed at getting one through QT. Unfortunately, this second Mandarin, the one that caused all the trouble, didn't make it either (despite adding $60 worth of live copepods to the QT specifically for her). I've given up the Dragonet dream, but wanted to share that it is possible to get a Hippo through CP... So maybe the red "5" on the chart at the beginning of this thread can come down to like an orange "4". Also a big thanks to everyone who helped along the way [emoji1]

On a side note you don't have to give up on the Mandarin. I just got a captive bred one and it was eating frozen day one and pellets within a week.

 

[Mundeez]

Was that eBay or dr ordered ?

Got it on eBay! The seller's info was given to me by Chad over at BRS, who told me he'd had success using it in the past. I'll post it here if anyone is interested:

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Chloroquine-...ne-ich-velvet-brook-/231636780028?_mwBanner=1

 

[Greenstreet.1]

Got it on eBay! The seller's info was given to me by Chad over at BRS, who told me he'd had success using it in the past. I'll post it here if anyone is interested:

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Chloroquine-...ne-ich-velvet-brook-/231636780028?_mwBanner=1

Was this your first try with it ?

 

[awais98]

How do I quarantine Midas Blenny ?
Will they tolerate chelated copper?

 

[Brew12]

How do I quarantine Midas Blenny ?
Will they tolerate chelated copper?

That would be my first choice for a Blenny but I believe they do well in all 3 choices. One of the easier ones to QT imo.

 

[melypr1985]

How do I quarantine Midas Blenny ?
Will they tolerate chelated copper?

Yes. They do quite well in chelated copper. As Brew said, they will do well in CP and with TTM as well.

 

[Greenstreet.1]

Got it on eBay! The seller's info was given to me by Chad over at BRS, who told me he'd had success using it in the past. I'll post it here if anyone is interested:

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Chloroquine-...ne-ich-velvet-brook-/231636780028?_mwBanner=1

Will I did contact him and he sent me this.

 

[Humblefish]

^^ CP shelf life is only 3 years, FYI.

 

[NowGlazeIT]

^^ CP shelf life is only 3 years, FYI.

;BlackeyeYou need to start offering a little bit of ice to go with those burns dude haha

 

[Humblefish]

;BlackeyeYou need to start offering a little bit of ice to go with those burns dude haha

Unfortunately, what I say isn't usually what most people want to hear. ;)

 

[Greenstreet.1]

^^ CP shelf life is only 3 years, FYI.

Yes I remember you saying that. [emoji1531]

 

[Humblefish]

Yes I remember you saying that. [emoji1531]

Actually 100% CP is, "5 years when stored at room temperature in original packing."

Source: http://www.aurolabs.com/pdf/api/new/CHLOROQUINEPHOSPHATE.pdf

The 3 year shelf life is CP sourced from Diamondback Drugs, so there must be something else in their CP (binder?) with a shorter shelf life.

Which raises another question: Does CP need a binder in order to be effective (for fish)? Every time I've gotten CP from a compounding pharmacy it's always 99-99.5% pure with a 0.5-1% binder included. BUT that CP is meant for human consumption to treat malaria.

 

[Humblefish]

^^ This is an excellent question for @Christoph

 

[Greenstreet.1]

Will give it a try and see how it goes.